DD had her phone advising today and it went really well. The advisor told her she could get her into the honors class that we thought was full. The only other issue was that the advisor told her that she didn’t need to take two classes (METR 1313 programing for meteorology and Math 2513 Discrete Mathematics) but she does need to take them for her CS minor or sub them for higher level classes and they are classes she really wants to take. I also want her to take some ‘easy for her’ classes first semester. They are resolving this via email.
It looks like first semester will be:
METR 1313: programing for meteorology
HARP 2000: lessons
MUTE 2271: ensemble
METR 1111: Orientation to Professional Meteorology
METR 2013: Introduction to Meteorology I (Honors)
METR 2011: Introduction to Meteorology I Laboratory (HONORS)
Math 2513: Discrete Mathematics
MUNM 1113: Understanding Music (Honors)
Based on my son’s experience taking 16 hours his first semester, your D will have no problem at all with this schedule. DS had marching band and was still able to spend lots of time on the ME Race Car team. The honors versions of classes he has taken have been great. The pace was more to his liking than what he heard from people taking the regular versions.
The phone advising worked out perfectly for him last year too. He is home now for 2 more days before heading off to do drum corps for the summer, so we won’t see him again until August.
@3scoutsmom , My D took 17 hours including one honors course her first semester. I was concerned about her taking more than 15 hours her first semester, but it turned out fine. It was a manageable course load and she was involved in a lot of campus activities. Of course, the courses were in her areas of interest. It might have been different if it had been heavy in science or math which are not her preference. Her advisors have been very helpful and knowledgeable. I hope your D loves OU.
My D is very very concerned and hence spent few hours looking at OU browse class for fall and agree with her concern. Pretty much all possible courses related to pre-med subjects or honors college subjects are already full.
So I am not able to follow OU policy of providing more phone appointments for counselling. Though she called in beginning of April itself, they earliest OU told is June 15th for her appointment. So not clear what she can do for the 1st semester?
@GoldenRock Your d’s advisor may be able to suggest classes needed to fulfil gen ed requirements, also sometimes people drop classes so spaces open up. D’s advisor was able to get her into an Honors class we thought was full so don’t worry until after her phone appointment.
My son had his phone appointment on Wednesday.
He has enough AP credits to be considered a Sophomore and is majoring in Civil Engineering.
He is eligible to take CEES 2113 Statics and CEES 2213 CADD Fundamentals.
Problem—the classes are already full and he’s on the wait list. Comparing last Fall’s course listing to this year–there is one less class of CADD Fundamentals available. In actuality there is only 1 section! There are 37 students on the wait list.
Statics only has 2 sections available with 7 and 4 students on the wait list for each respective section.
I know students drop courses but I’m thinking that those taking these required Civil Engineering courses would be less likely to drop the courses that they’ve enrolled in.
He has an ambitious goal of graduating in 3 years (I know it’s a lofty goal but I don’t want to discourage him). If he’s unable to register for these classes he will not make his goal as these courses are only taught in the Fall semester. He may also have to take unnecessary courses in the Spring semester to meet the 12 credit minimum requirement for his scholarship.
The system is designed such that those course are for true sophomores. The expectation is that the 1st semester a kids will take the ‘core’ classes. S1 was in a similar situation 55 AP credits. The Scholars get to register early, but the class standing advantage only comes into play after they have been enrolled for a semester. He is going for the MS in 4 years. I don’t understand the rush, but it is his life. Best advice would be to take any non-major courses that may be needed later. Sometimes goals are good. Sometimes they are not helpful. What is the advantage to graduating in 3 years?
He is very ambivalent about leaving home. Coming home requires a plane ride so psychologically it creates a big barrier between home and school. Right now the idea of graduating in 3 years brings him a sense of comfort.
He purposely turned down a scholarship at our state flagship because logically he knew the opportunities at OU are better for him. At first I was surprised that he wasn’t excited to go away and have an adventure. But he is very self aware and knows that being 100% responsible for himself is a little scary. I explain that he’ll be living on campus where there is some level of support and there will be other students having the same exact experience but I think that my words don’t help him as much as I’d like.
I believe he will be fine as he is extremely extroverted and held leadership roles in various extracurricular activities. I joke with him that he’ll not want to come home for Spring Break, etc.
He is also not sure about Civil Engineering and I thought being in the classes that are full would help him to decide in his first semester as to whether or not that is the direction he wants to go. I’m encouraging him to graduate in 4 years as I have S2 graduating high school in 3 years.
@3scoutsmom, as you may remember, my DD is also an NMF in the Honors College starting in the Fall. Where on OU’s website can one find the Honors classes available for her? My DD has her phone enrollment advising session on June 22.
I posted her classes up thread but here they are again:
METR 1313: programing for meteorology
HARP 2000: lessons
MUTE 2271: ensemble
METR 1111: Orientation to Professional Meteorology
METR 2013: Introduction to Meteorology I (Honors)
METR 2011: Introduction to Meteorology I Laboratory (HONORS)
Math 2513: Discrete Mathematics
MUNM 1113: Understanding Music (Honors)
She’s got most of her gen ed credits out of the way with AP credits
to find open classes you need to use the the ClassNav make sure you select the correct semester and check the box at the bottom left that says show me classes with seats available. Type honors in the search box in the upper right hand corner.
https://classnav.ou.edu/#semester/201610/subject_code/all
Also there’s a chance her advisor can get her into a class that’s listed as full. I’d suggest that she makes a wish list of classes and let the advisor see what she can do.
@RayznHELL You can go to this link https://sis.ou.edu/StudentRegistrationSsb/ssb/classSearch/classSearch and select HON in subject and it will show all the Honors College course offered coming fall and also will status on available seats. In addition to Honors college course, when you search other colleges/dept course, it will list if any honors course offered and availability status. For example, OChem 3053 may have a regular section, and another section honors.
My D had her appointment and is in the process of completing her enrollment. But her adviser informed student allowed to enroll only in 2 honor course per semester. Not sure, whether it is a guideline or rule or is it only for freshman year. Because as you can see @3scoutsmom post above, 3 honors course are allowed by that adviser.
My D adviser also told some honors class, though it shows full, they will be able to enroll if you honors college students. But it is not clear, whether it is for any course or only if the course is offered in honors college. I think it is later because for my D OChem 3053 honors section is full and she told she can not enroll but she enrolled her in the regular section. But HONS 2973 though it showed full, she enrolled her.
Also remember some course, they will hold on enrollment until AP results come out if there is a pre-req dependency on any AP student has taken this year.
My D is enrolled most of the course and only 1 final course she is trying to nail down since what ever she wanted are full in Biology.
@goldenrock I don’t really understand how labs work but because they are required to be taken with the class I don’t think they count as separate class for the honors class limit recommendation.
@3scoutsmom Thanks for the clarification. May be lab is not considered in the 2 honors course limit. That is good.
@3scoutsmom, @GoldenRock, thank you both for your assistance.
@RayznHELL Our NMF/Honors College DD had her advising appointment over the phone last week. It was a very positive experience! The conversation and follow up emails were incredibly helpful and supportive. I wouldn’t spend too much time thinking about a course schedule and how it will all fit together. In the end, our DD ended up with a schedule much better than what we would have come up with. The OU major “check sheets” are helpful, but not all listed courses are offered every semester, so trying to piece something together can seem overwhelming. The adviser suggested courses that will be great fits and was able override courses that were “full”, “required professor approval” and had pre-reqs. We have been continually impressed with the attention to detail of the National Scholars Program and the helpfulness - and genuine friendliness - of everyone we have had contact with at OU.
@3scoutsmom tangent here, sorry, but your D is able to take music classes as a meteorology (or whatever) major? Or is she double majoring?
@flatKanas
My crazy D wants to do everything! She plans to major in meteorology and minor in math (it’s only one more math class than required for the Meteorology major and recommended), minor in music, German, and comp sci. She has a ton of DE and AP credits, after her first semester she will be classified as a senior! I don’t think she really cares about the actual minor certifications but she really wants to take the classes (except music theory!) and if they equal a minor why not? She may end up not completing the music minor and double majoring in Meteorology and Comp Sci.
For music, in order to continue on her instrument she had to apply and successfully audition for the School of Music, which she did, and had to indicate what degree she is pursuing, she doesn’t have to actually finish it if it becomes too much;-) I’m thrilled she can continue on her instrument at college without us paying $$ for private music lessons and ensembles! The music minor program at OU is only a few years old and she’ll is the first student to pursue a minor on her instrument.
The biggest issue with doing music and Meteorology is the School of Music is diagonally across campus from the National Weather Center so timing of classes is important! The other issue is that her instrument will be stored in her music teacher’s office, not the in the practice rooms so she will need to work out a practice schedule that doesn’t conflict with her teacher’s other private lessons. If I recall she only has a small studio of four or five students so I hope it won’t be too much of an issue.
As for the German minor… German is her language of choice and she has earned the Gold award on the National German Exam every year so I’d be shocked if she didn’t get a 5 on the German AP which will give her credit for GERM 1115, 1225, 2113, she’s taking the German CLEP exam next week which hopefully will give her credit for GERM 2223. She plans to do the 6 months Meteorology exchange program OU has with the University of Hamburg so in preparation for that she needs to take GERM 3423 Advanced German Composition, GERM 3523 Advanced German Conversation, GERM 3013 Scientific German I (independent study) and GERM 3123 Scientific German II (Independent study) since some of the classes she’ll be taking in Hamburg will be taught in German which gives her a enough German for a minor.
She has all gen ed credits except the Understanding Music class which will count both for her minor and her gen ed credit for Core IV and honors which she’s taking in the fall, and a 3000 level non western culture class that hopefully she can take as honors in the future.
Schedule update - after many emails and phone calls between the Meteorology department, the Comp Sci department and the advisor D reports they have determined that she has credits to cover the METR 1313: programing for meteorology requirement for Meteorology and the CS 1323 Intro to Programing and that she won’t miss any foundations so they have now placed her in CS 2334 Programming Structures and Abstractions which also has a lab so she’s now at 17 credit hours. If she thinks it’s too much she can drop it during drop/add.
@3scoutsmom Thanks for the info! Your D is a busy bee - good for her! My S has been up to his eyeballs in music in HS but will be a CS major in college. As we look at schools I try to keep an eye out for how he could dabble in music if he wanted to.
@flatKansa I hope your S will find a way to kept music in his college life. My D she needs music for her 'balance" it’s something she does for herself and it’s just part of her identity. I could actually seeing her changing majors but I could never see her putting her instrument aside. I hope she’ll get a few paying gigs while at college, I know she could if she’d puts some effort into it, she’s had some paying gigs in high school but they kinds fell into her lap…