Picking The Right Ivy League School

<p>Hello fellow CCers! </p>

<p>Please hear me out completely before making any comments. </p>

<p>Fortunately, the acceptance/rejection hype has (finally) settled. It has been a stressful four days for all of us, I'm sure.</p>

<p>However, for many people, the process is not over. I applied to many schools, and was very lucky/fortunate to have gotten into some great schools:</p>

<p>HARVARD (Single Choice Early Action)
PRINCETON
YALE
PENN
COLUMBIA
DARTMOUTH
CORNELL
BROWN
RICE (Interim Decision)</p>

<p>Currently, I am completely lost as to where I should begin to decide on a college... I hope I am not the only one in this predicament. I do not solely want to rely on USNews or Statistical Rankings to decide my undergraduate degree. I have not visited any of my schools, but am planning to visit four of them in the upcoming month of April. </p>

<p>Question: What else does one consider outside of financial aid and "campus likability"? What determines "fit"?</p>

<p>Is there an alumni who can provide some assistance in describing how his/her personal experience has been regarding the aforementioned undergrad program(s)?</p>

<p>Much thanks,
(A very confused and torn.) Tri</p>

<p>It's not always easy to determine a good fit.</p>

<p>First I think most schools have their school paper on line. certainly the Dartmouth is on line. Start reading them every day for the schools you are interested in. It will help you see what issues are important on each campus and what some of the characteristics of each school are. It will also give you an idea of the social scene on each campus.</p>

<p>When you visit you need to go past the information session and the tour. Go to the student commons and hang out for a while, go into the dining hall, and the library. Listen to some conversations. </p>

<p>I think each school really has a different character and you need to find it.</p>

<p>I have also found that schools are different in terms of letting you know about available opportunities. I think Dartmouth puts a lot of information together and right there for students and families. Other schools have the same opportunities but it may be more difficult to find them - you will have to discover them yourself. What is your personality. Are you better if things are handed to you or can you find them?</p>

<p>Also some schools make it a little easier once you are there. Some schools are more intense. These are also important factors.</p>

<p>Some, like Dartmouth, are big on tradition. Some are crazy traditions. Is this appealing to you or not?</p>

<p>And go through course catalogues on line. Do the classes sound interesting? See if you can find out, as you can on the Dartmouth web site, how often classes are given, how many students are actually in specific classes, what the median grades are.</p>

<p>First of all congratulations on being admitted to some wonderful places.</p>

<p>I think that the emphasis should be right school for you regardless of it's moniker (remember, after all has been said and done, the ivy league is first and foremost, an athletic conference). </p>

<p>Fit is about what you want/need from your college experience. Suffice it to say , you will get a great education at any of these schools, it is your desire to get one. Where do you see yourself most being, which school really communes with your soul? I think that you have to sit down, be honest with yourself and ask your self the hard questions.</p>

<p>How important is it to you to have others feel wowed when you tell them the school that you attend? If the wow factor is important to you (and we ain't mad at you if it is, just be honest with yourself about it), then you are more prone to attend HYP</p>

<p>How important is it to your parents to say that Tri attends.....?
Once again, you may be more prone to attend HYP</p>

<p>That being said each school is uniquely different, each having its own set of strenghts and weaknesses. </p>

<p>You you want a core curriculum (Columbia) vs an open curriculum (Brown)?</p>

<p>Do you want a larger more urban campus (Harvard, Columbia)? Can you deal with a rural campus (Dartmouth)</p>

<p>Do you want a residential housing system (Yale, Rice)</p>

<p>Do you want a school that school that is more focused on undergraduate education (Princeton, Dartmouth)?</p>

<p>How much or little is interaction with your professors?</p>

<p>Do you want most of your classes taught by Professors (Princeton, Dartmouth) or TA/Teaching fellows)? Keep in mind that most of the "world renowned" professors teach very few if any undergrads. </p>

<p>There was a recent discussion on the Parents thread about *Ivy education really a fraud*that discusses Tenure-track faculty members teach only 40 percent of classes in the University of Pennsylvania's School of Arts and Sciences, according to a report by a graduate-student union at Penn that has been fighting for university recognition.
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=160504%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=160504&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Is it important to you to attend a school that has a strong sense of community (Dartmouth, Brown) or a school where students are doing their own thing (columbia, H,Y)</p>

<p>Strong greek presence (Dartmouth, Cornell) or eating clubs (Princeton)</p>

<p>Quarter system (Dartmouth) vs. semesters?</p>

<p>What is your happiness factor? </p>

<p>Harvard undergraduates are more likely than students at other elite private institutions to be unhappy with their life on campus, according to an analysis of a recent survey of student satisfaction. On a five-point scale, Harvard students' overall satisfaction is 3.95, compared to an average of 4.16 from the 30 other schools surveyed by the Consortium on Financing Higher Education, which includes all eight Ivies, along with top research institutions and small liberal arts schools. </p>

<p>According to the survey, Harvard averaged a 2.62 for its campus social life, compared to 2.89 across other schools, and netted a 2.53 for its sense of community, compared to 2.8 at other COFHE institutions</p>

<p>Faculty availability at Harvard averaged a 2.92 compared to an average of 3.39 at peer institutions, quality of instruction received a 3.16 rating compared to 3.31 at other schools, and quality of advising within majors netted a 2.54 compared to a 2.86 at other COFHE schools</p>

<p><a href="http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=506758%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=506758&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=28956%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.yaledailynews.com/article.asp?AID=28956&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p><a href="http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=16794&repository=0001_article%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=16794&repository=0001_article&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>In the end, nothing beats visiting; spend the night talk to other students, sit in on classes, talk to professors. good luck with your decision</p>

<p>Tchiem, I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WANT YOU TO BE AT DARTMOUTH. Im a Vietnamese and you dont know how much I want to het to know you. You make me proud of our country. LOVE TO SEE YOU AT CAMPUS NEXT YEAR. My email is <a href="mailto:megagear23@yahoo.com">megagear23@yahoo.com</a>. Mail me sometime</p>

<p>tchiem, i was also looking at other Ivy board. It seems like we are the one giving you the most advice, and also respecting your achievements. Don't you think Dartmouth is much more friendly, Why not Dartmouth then</p>

<p>wow nice summary sybbie, perfect response</p>

<p>Sybbie-- thank you for such a thoughtful and thorough response. I really appreciate it.</p>

<p>What the hell???!?!!?!?!?? You got into EVERY SINGLE IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS OMFG OMFG! I'm in disbelieve right now. How did you do it may I ask? omg...unbelievable</p>

<p>OMG...and you're Vietnamese too...holy f***. You lam cai gi ma gioi vay? Lam on giup me duoc khong Tri. I applied to 5 Ivys and got shot down. Chuc Mung</p>

<p>Did any of you all use Ivysuccess? I mean, you got into all the ivy's? Post your stats please.
(P.S. Dartmouth rocks! 2010, all the way!)</p>

<p>so tchiem, where did you decide to attend?</p>