Playing the System or Is it Fine?

Colleges & Universities A-Z Dartmouth College
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<p><a href="http://www.dartmouth.edu/apply/admissions/firstyear/early.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dartmouth.edu/apply/admissions/firstyear/early.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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You may apply for Early Decision even if you have not yet taken two SAT II: Subject Tests. You must, however, take two SAT II's no later than January of your senior year. These test results will be used in further evaluating the applications of deferred Early Decision applicants and for academic placement of accepted candidates.

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<p>I'm considering Dartmouth College, Cornell University, and Brown University for early decision. However, my SAT scores are not what they should be because of a stupid bubble in mistake on one of the sections. Although, I'm taking the ACT in June, and I feel much more confident about it. I'll be done with my SAT IIs in June, as well, which I do much better on anyway.</p>

<p>I really don't want my SAT scores to be factored into the decision. So, I was considering sending Dartmouth my ACT scores only for early decision, if I do apply there. Then, after being accepted or deferred, I'd send SAT II scores. Would this be a bad idea, deliberately not sending CB transcript even if I've taken the SAT IIs?</p>

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<p>How can you be so sure that they will defer you and not reject you? :p</p>

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<p>I'm not sure. This is all hypothetical. Was the post really productive? No, it wasn't. If you're not sure, then don't post, and I already got my answer somewhere else, no thanks to you.</p>

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<p>Oh come on man I was just joking. And now for a serious answer. If you are defered then you will HAVE to send in your SAT II scores to Dartmouth to increase your chances.</p>

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<p>I know that. That's not what I was asking.</p>

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<p>Well send in anything they would just look at your highest score. So sending either of them would do no harm.</p>

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<p>You're not understanding.</p>

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Would this be a bad idea, deliberately not sending CB transcript even if I've taken the SAT IIs?

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<p>How would Dartmouth know that you have given your SAT IIs until and unless you intend to let them know? :)</p>

<p>Just send in ACT, because Colleges know that some students do better on ACT than on SAT!</p>

<p>I hope this time I understood :D If not I give up! ;)</p>

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<p>College Board sends a transcript that has scores for every test you have taken. The dates for when the scores were released are also listed. I'll be done with SAT IIs in June. They will know that I could have sent them earlier when they see the dates on my College Board transcript.</p>

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<p>Oh I didn't know that CB sends the list of all the tests taken. I just thought they send what you tell them to... But then why don't you want to send you SAT score? What is your score?</p>

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<p>Because it is comapratively quite lower than waht I'm expectin gon the ACT.</p>

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<p>You have already mentioned Dartmouth on your SAT's score recipients?</p>

<p>Well if not just send in ACT and I think Colleges just look at the highest score. Well I really dont know how far it is true but I have read on other forums that if you score really well on SAT IIs they can cover up for your SAT. Not sure about how true that statement is.</p>

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<p>They will look at the highest scores that you send. If you have taken the SAT IIs, then you should send them. </p>

<p>Remember Dartmouth tellls you up front that misrepresentation in the application process is grounds for having your admissions rescinded (and remember there is the little honor code that they take very seriously).</p>

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<p>If a candidate for admission to Dartmouth makes a false statement or submits falsified material in connection with his or her application, and the misrepresentation is discovered after the candidate has been admitted, the offer of admission ordinarily will be withdrawn. If the misrepresentation is discovered after a student has matriculated, the offer of admission normally will be rescinded and the student will be required to leave Dartmouth. If the discovery occurs after a degree has been awarded, the degree normally will be rescinded.</p>

<p>If an alleged misrepresentation is discovered prior to matriculation, the determination whether the application contains false information rests solely with the Office of Admissions and Financial Aid, and will be resolved outside the student disciplinary process. If the alleged misrepresentation is discovered after matriculation, the matter will be referred to the Committee on Standards for adjudication under the Dartmouth College Community Standards of Conduct.</p>

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<p>send your stuff, let the process play itself out you will ultimately end up where you need to be.</p>

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<p>Yeah, that occurred to me well after I posted this. I didn't know that the Dartmouth honor code was that tough.</p>

<p>Anyway, would the following test scores be enough to cover the SAT score, disguise it?</p>

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SAT: 2000 {720M|700W|580CR-->Bubble in mistake, which I didn't know about until a week ago when I looked at the Q&A sheet}
ACT: 34
SAT II Bio M: 800
SAT II Math 2/C: 760
SAT II Chem: 780
AP English Lang/Comp: 4
AP Chem: 5
AP US History: 5
AP Psych: 5

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<p>I could take the SAT again in October, but if I get those ACT scores, then there really wouldn't be any point in doing so. Some of those tests I haven't taken yet, but those are the scores I have or expect.</p>

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<p>Can you say Parkhurst (which is what happens if you violate the honor code. You must pack your bags and immediately leave the island)???</p>

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<p>From: What not to do: advice from the parkhursted</p>

<p>From the whispered, uncertain rumors of daily conversation to the flippant jokes made loudly in bravado-filled frat basements, it is clear that being Parkhursted is not something Dartmouth students take lightly. Even those who know very little about suspension view it as frightening and very real: “Being Parkhursted is the worst possible thing that can happen to you at Dartmouth. It puts your life on hold,” Nicole LaBombard ‘09 said. And though Parkhursting is indisputably an uncomfortable subject, it seems that everyone can think of at least one acqaintance who has gone through the process.</p>

<p>Still, those who are Parkhursted, whether for Vespa destruction or poor academic standing, do manage to soldier on and can now turn an otherwise negative experience into valuable advice and warning for the rest of the student body.</p>

<p><a href="http://thedartmouth.com/2007/01/19/mirror/what/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://thedartmouth.com/2007/01/19/mirror/what/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>From: On trial: the committee on standards</p>

<p>We’ve all heard of them — the miscreants, the prosecuted, the kids who fade into the background under a cloud of secrecy and shame: the Parkhursted. Few people know what “Parkhursting” actually entails beyond a revocation of BlitzMail and a push out of the Dartmouth bubble. Like car accidents and death, people usually think, “That won’t happen to me.” At least that is what Daniel Obaseki ‘07 thought up until his entrance into the world of suspension. “I used to think there was a certain type of kid that got Parkhursted,” Obaseki said. “The individuals who bought papers, or cheated on tests. I never realized there’s an entire subculture of kids getting shafted by the system.”</p>

<p>Obaseki had just returned from a stressful recruiting trip this fall and had been hired by an investment banking firm. He was a senior, five credits away from graduating, and the tracks for the next stage in life had been set into place. Life was good. After dinner with his best friend he stopped at the Thayer BlitzMail terminals to make plans for the night. But then he saw it, an email from his philosophy professor. He had been suspected of plagiarism. The paper that he had stayed up all night writing had been forwarded to Undergraduate Judicial Affairs. The process had been set in motion, and Obaseki would later be suspended for three terms. “I’m thinking ‘This can’t be happening,’” Obaseki said. “‘Oh God, my life is over.’”</p>

<p><a href="http://thedartmouth.com/2007/01/19/mirror/on/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://thedartmouth.com/2007/01/19/mirror/on/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>If you are submitting your ACT scores, on the application, it also asks your test scores, you can ask that they only consider your SATII and your ACT. either way, they know that some students do better on one test than the other, so if your ACT is the better score, that is the one that they will consider. relax.</p>

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<p>Thank you very much. Jeez, three terms, wow...I'm definitely not trying anything like this.</p>

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<p>your subject tests are all math/science. Suggest you take the US History subject test if you haven't already, to demonstrate breadth across curriculums. (Yes, your AP-5 score will be noticed, but an 800 Subject Test score is more important to some adcoms.)</p>

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<p>I'll take that in October, then. I don't want to take three subject tests in June.</p>

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<p>You scores are good enough man. You can mention the bubble problem too.</p>

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<p>Thanks. I guess it's off to work on the subjective stuff...</p>