PLEASE Chance an International Student for Top Schools/Ivies!! Will Chance Back!!

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<p>Ethnicity: Gulf Arab - Southeast Asian (I'm not going to put "White", since I am no where near white)
Sex: Male
Location: Saudi Arabia
School type: Small Private School (one of the top in the country, no actual list, common knowledge), Many Forbes 200 Rich List families</p>

<p>Family: no one graduated in the United States, let alone live there. Father is postdoc.</p>

<p>Class of 2011 (Finishing Junior Year)
GPA 9th-12th (projected,unweighted): 3.8-.9</p>

<p>Class Rank:
not reported for our school.
Less than 65 people in Grade 11, I am known to be 2nd or 3rd.</p>

<p>APs/Courses:
None of the Schools I have ever attended offered Advanced Placement courses,strangely.
Where Available, I took an "Honours" course. Otherwise, I took the most difficult "stream" (Science 10-1, as opposed to 10-2, which is much easier, or Pure Math 10 as opposed to Applied Math 10) possible.</p>

<p>PLEASE NOTE: My current school does not offer "Courses". You take what you get from the school, and study as a group, not with individual schedules like most American schools.</p>

<p>School History(quite the scholarly nomad):
Grades2-7: Small Private School in Ontario(Canada)
Grade 9- Large Public Middle School in Alberta(Canada)
Grade 10- Large Public High School in Alberta(Canada)
Grade 11- Small Top Private School in Saudi Arabia
Grade 12- Same^</p>

<p>SATIIs: none yet
Will take (October 2010):
Chemistry (Projected 700-740)
Math Level I (Projected 680-700)
Math Level II (Projected 680-710)</p>

<p>SATI: Scores coming in a few days, projected at 1900-2000+, first sitting.</p>

<p>Recommendation Letter choices:
-Current English teacher (One of his favourite students)
-Current Chemistry teacher (loves me, "one of the best, if not the best, students I have taught")
-Current Precalculus teacher (knows my hardwork and attention to detail, his 2nd or 3rd best student this year)
-grade 10 social teacher (great letter)
-Branch Manager of the 2nd Largest Bank in the Middle East (see below)
-Finance Head of a Large Company (see below)</p>

<p>EXTRACURRICS:</p>

<p>-Legacy Group, Executive Member (Responsible for Finance and Budgeting), 2007-2008</p>

<p>-Designed and created an Intranet (due to student privacy concerns) website for the Legacy Group (2007-2008), approximately 30-40 hours</p>

<p>-Saudi Student Club, 8 Years (no actual "ranks")</p>

<p>-Will be working (for free) during the Summer partly @ a large commercial bank, actual work</p>

<p>-Will be working (for free) during the Summer partly @ a large company*, actual work</p>

<p>-Created "Home-Work Helpline" at my current school, 2009-2010, Year-long</p>

<p>-CityWide (Community) Division II Basketball Champions</p>

<p>-Orange Belt in MMA Karate (long time ago, like gr8)</p>

<p>-Intramural Badminton League-Doubles, 2nd Place</p>

<p>-Recieved Standard (Level II) First-Aid Training and Certification (Canada)</p>

<p>-Sports Medicine Junior Trainer, 25+ Hours</p>

<p>-Junior Lifeguard Training Program, 18 hours</p>

<p>-Youth Science Foundation Canada, School Representative, 1 Year (moved to Saudi)</p>

<p>-Youth Science Foundation Canada, Regional Correspondent (Calgary,1 Year,^)</p>

<p>-Fostering Leadership in Youth, Summer-long Program, 2007-2008</p>

<p>-Finance Writer for School Magazine, contributed 3 Articles</p>

<p>-Co-founded a School-wide campaign to fix the damaged homes of a massive flood in 2009,
assumed Treasurer responsibilities</p>

<p>-School Physics Team (Did not attend Regionals due to illness)</p>

<p>-School's Annual Exhibition, Chemistry Project</p>

<p>-School's Annual Exhibition, Physics Project</p>

<p>-Cayley Mathematics Competition 2009, top 500</p>

<p>-Global Young Leaders Conference 2010 nominee, turned it down since parents weren't comfortable with me travelling alone (!!!)</p>

<p>*The large company is owned by my grandfather and his brother</p>

<p>AWARDS:
-The Vincent Massey Award (9, nominated by 3 teachers)
-Service Award (9)
-Science Excellence (9)
-Language Arts Excellence (9)
-Science Outstanding Achievement (highest honor, granted once per semester, allowed to take one per year) (9)
-Social Studies Outstanding Achievement (highest honor, granted once per semester,allowed to take one per year) (9)
-Honour Roll (9)
-Public Speaking Award (9)
-Junior Achievement Canada, Certificate of Accomplishment
-Sportsmanship Award (10)
-Sports Medicine Junior Trainer Award (10-1st Place)
-Financial Management 10 Award (10-1st Place)
-Honour Roll (10)
-Certificate of Congratulations from Canadian Member of Parliament</p>

<p>Honor societies/Clubs:
None available at my school, hopefully will open one next year once my friend becomes School President :D urge him to facilitate clubs and stuff, current requests are falling on deaf ears</p>

<p>Financial Aid:
None needed.</p>

<p>Scholarships:
Applying for King Abdullah Foreign Study Scholarship* (Full-ride, all inclusive. Round-trip tickets home every 9 months too)</p>

<p>*You apply for it after grade 12...which means you'd get it by october or late december AFTER grade 12...Is it worth mentioning?</p>

<p>CHANCING</p>

<p>Columbia
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
University of Pennsylvania - Wharton
New York University-Stern
MIT-Sloan
Cornell
UC-Berkeley
University of Virginia-McIntire</p>

<p>any suggestions? extra currics, etc</p>

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<p>We can’t chance you based on a projected score, and your projected score is NOT in the range for the ivies with no hooks (asian even)</p>

<p>About your ECs…please don’t put some of the trivial stuff on there, you’ll not have enough space on the common app to put down all those stuff anyways.
Now, your ECs are all over the place and doesn’t really stand out, in addition to no commitment in any areas (20 hours here, 40 hours there, where’s your passion?)</p>

<p>Bottom line get that score first and we can chance you</p>

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<p>Ok… Im really passionate about Finance and Economics?? How Can I make it “stand out”?</p>

<p>Which ECs do you think are “trivial”?</p>

<p>Thanks for the quick reply. send me the link to your Chance thread if youd like me to chance you.</p>

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<p>None of my parents have lived in the United States nor studied there. Dad studied abroad and finished postdoctoral studies, mom finished highschool. Do I qualify for any related “hooks”?</p>

<p>Do bi-racials have any URM hook? especially Arabs/Southeast Asians (I think they are a different group, since nothing is similar between any of the more prominent asian american groups {Korean, Chinese, Japanese, etc.} and Southeast Asian (Indonesian, btw)?</p>

<p>Are Arabs considered URM? I’m really annoyed when people refer to me as white. I dont look the part, AT ALL. I have dark skin, so how is that possible that I may be refered to as “White” on applications?!!</p>

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<p>^Typically, the admissions process is tougher on international applicants, so while there may be few Saudi Arabians at these schools, I do not think that being Arabic will give you any advantage. Also, since your father attended college but did not attend the schools you are applying to, you will not be a first generation or a legacy applicant- so as far as I can tell, no hooks.</p>

<p>And for an unhooked applicant, you really must bring your test scores up. I realize this is easier said than done, but the tentative scores you have posted really are not in the range of your target schools, especially when you consider that you’re an international student. </p>

<p>Get high test scores, write amazing essays, make sure your recommendation letters are great (you might not want to send six, though), try to distinguish your area of focus through your ECs, and then you will have as good a shot as anyone.</p>

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<p>I speak,read, and write fluently in 3 Languages (Arabic, Indonesian, English)… is that of any pullpower? </p>

<p>My father attended college in the Middle East.</p>

<p>Im not sure how I can focus my ECs to distinguish myself in Finance and Economics. I also forgot to mention that I managed 4 portfolios for family members, annual return of 14% this june. Any pull?
Any “focused EC” suggestions would also be of great help, THANKS!!</p>

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<p>Dude your EC’s are killer. I would change my goals though. You don’t have to go to the ivies to become powerful in the business world. Based on my intuition, with below a 2100 combined SAT you are most likely wasting your time applying to:</p>

<p>Columbia
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
Stanford
MIT</p>

<p>Why not try some good schools, which are not as selective. Maybe try something as an early decision applicant. Here are some schools that you may be interested in:</p>

<p>Rice University
Johns Hopkins University (Apply early decision get a 2100 SAT and you’re in!)
The City College of New York: Boucher School of Business
The University of Southern California (Big on international students)
Boston University (Big on international students.)</p>

<p>In terms of your EC’s I’d say you should get involved into a sport, any sport. Also if you haven’t visited the universities do it. Good luck.</p>

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<p>Just to let you know getting nominated for the “Global Young Leaders Conference” isn’t anything extraordinary. They randomly send out invites, I got one myself and then found out that another classmate who had a 1700 SAT with no ECs had got the invite too. If I were you. I wouldn’t mention it.</p>

<p>Like the others said, increase your test scores and make your ECs focused. I am applying for economics and many of my ECs are based on monetary things apart from which I have done a couple of internships in fields such as microecons and developmental econs. Getting those in would really help your chances</p>

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<p>A word of advice: don’t take Math 1 and Math 2 SATIIs. Pick one- Math 2, for the schools you’re interested in.</p>

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<p>Got your SAT score yet?</p>

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<p>Everything’s great except your GPA is a little on the low side.
I’d say Cornell or Duke is your best bet.
It’s also harder for international kids.</p>

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