<p>For the Class of 2014, 318 Indians applied to Princeton. I bet it would be closer to 350 this time around. Idiosyncra3y you’ve got it spot on. There are a few applicants from India to Princeton with 2400.</p>
<p>@debarghya - I know u cannot be exact but do you have any idea as to how many people are above 2300?? ( Rough estimate would be appreciated)</p>
<p>Thanks for the info debarghya9…</p>
<p>Let me take a shot at this then Violator:</p>
<p>If we were just to look at the distribution of SAT scores of people applying to P, we would get a decent idea of what percentage of applicants are over 2300 (not sure where to find this data and have no time now… Will look later). However, I would argue that the distribution of international scores would be generally higher than domestic (more self selective group).</p>
<p>A stab in the dark; 50-100 over 2300, 5-10 with 2400s.</p>
<p>I will think about this more later.</p>
<p>^I think 100 over 2300 will be too much. My guess is it’s about 50-60 over 2300. For the class of 2016, it’s going to get worse with even more 2300+ scores. </p>
<p>Conclusion: Life’s tough.</p>
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<p>Wrong!</p>
<p>Conclusion: Set yourself apart. </p>
<p>2300+ is not going to give you admission. Even this year (like every year) many 2400ers will be rejected and some sub-2000ers will be accepted. Why (figure it out)?</p>
<p>Reiteration of conclusion: Set yourself apart!</p>
<p>^That was more of a general observation on life. Even in the Princeton admissions context, that holds good. Thousands of deserving and accomplished students do get turned down from Princeton every year. </p>
<p>Your conclusion is incomplete the way it stands now. Someone who scores a 600 on the SAT may set himself apart among Princeton applicants …but not get accepted. :p</p>
<p>debarghya9 - Please don’t get offended, but I think your attitude is pessimistic somewhere. Come on, be optimistic. It seems to me as if you have lost all hopes in this game/ race of admissions. Please don’t. Cheer up and even if you don’t get admission this year, try for next, but don’t lose hope! Have faith in god. :)</p>
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<p>So you are asserting that anyone with a 600 is an automatic-reject applicant?</p>
<p>That’s not the case. You are getting it all wrong. These top-notch colleges are looking for students who have distinguished themselves in some way or the other. Students are divided into many groups. Some are academic stars, some are athletic stars, some have political connections, some are billionaires’ kid, some run online businesses earning in thousands of dollars/ month (I know this kid who got into Stanford last year from China with some 1900s and 3.8 GPA that too even with a full ride!! - check out Stanford RD 2014 decisions). Colleges definitely want every star with a 2300+ but for a 2300 they can’t reject these great students who have actually distinguished themselves from thousands of applicants from all around the world!</p>
<p>Distinguishing yourself doesn’t means getting a 2.8 GPA (See, he has distinguished himself! That’s BS). Distinguishing means doing something really awesome (which may compromise your average academic performance, if you have any) like forming a discussions forum online which reaches tons of international locations all around the world or writing/ publishing a book or presenting your thesis/ report of environmental problems in an international conference in front of UN heads & leaders from all around the world or something like that. </p>
<p>Colleges won’t reject you if you are an applicant with average academics but great distinction in one or two areas, but will definitely reject you if you have only one thing in your app and that is a 2300.</p>
<p>PS: I don’t mean one shouldn’t get a 2300+. LOL. I mean, if you are a distinguished applicant, some low scores aren’t going to keep you back in attending some of the greatest colleges of the nation (apparently the WORLD!)</p>
<p>Hope this helps you and other stalkers! :)</p>
<p>Add one more line to my second para: </p>
<p>Some have great personal stories/ essays!</p>
<p>I disagree with a lot, and agree with a lot :)</p>
<p>Big difference between pessimism and realism. I think debar… falls on the realist side. I agree no-one should lose hope, but I don’t think he has. God… that is an argument in itself :)</p>
<p>600 is auto reject. I would argue that almost anyone below 1200 is auto reject. I know they do not say it, but no-one who scores that low will have the other qualities P looks for.</p>
<p>I completely agree with your description of “distinguishing” but that should be done without compromising your ‘normal’ scores/grades too much.</p>
<p>Agree with next para too, except it should read as follows:
Colleges probably will reject you if you are an applicant with average academics (amongst its applicants) but great distinction in one or two areas, but will definitely reject you if you have only one thing in your app and that is a 2300.</p>
<p>(I suppose that depends on how great, great is…)</p>
<p>PS is good.</p>
<p>^^I’m not trying to be pessimistic here, just being pragmatic. Dreams, I get it. That comment was more of a general observation on life. Coming to the world outside college admissions, you probably know better than me how hard the struggle for survival can be. I still believe that life’s tough especially if one has high expectations from it. I haven’t lost all hopes yet, but it’s not about ME. The fact still remains that a large number of “above-average” kids will end up disappointed on 30th March. </p>
<p>As for the initial post, where I mentioned that life’s tough, think about it. I have a 3-times IMO-er friend from India who’s applying to Princeton. Then there are at least 50 with 2300+ scorers fighting for approximately 10 spots (considering that Princeton is citizenship-blind, this is definitely not a strict number). Then there are many sub-2300 scorers who have their own achievements, stories and wonderful personal qualities. Think about it…not every good application is going to be rewarded with an acceptance. Setting yourself apart: that’s a good thing but that’s not easy either. </p>
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<p>Many on CC would actually find that offensive, so be careful. It’s fine with me, though. Thank you for your concerns. :)</p>
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<p>I do believe that someone with a composite score of 600 on the SAT is not viable as an applicant for Princeton and is unlikely to survive the rigor of academics there. </p>
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<p>Lol, how does stalking come to the picture here? :p</p>
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<p>I disagree. A 600/800 on an app is not an auto reject, but yeah 1200/1600 is! </p>
<p>I have seen most of the ivy kids getting in with around 1400 at least (because of M being in between 700-800)</p>
<p>I never said one should compromise academics “too” much to have spectacular ECAs. I said one can compromise academics for average grades in some part of app for really good distinction in several areas!</p>
<p>Assuming average grades = GPAs> 3.8, top 5-10% (which definitely varies from school to school), subject scores around 700, SATs around 2000 - 2100.</p>
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<p>I think there is some sort of misunderstanding here. I assumed that 600 out of 800 and not 1600. </p>
<p>I agree, a 600/1600 is not just an auto reject, but adcoms shouldn’t even look at that application.</p>
<p>I was talking about 600/2400 with an average of 200 on each section. * That * stands out!</p>
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<p>Oh!! That is a clear admit case. He is a true stand out and has so well distinguished himself with that 600/2400. </p>
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<p>It certainly stands out… I wonder what SAT score you would need to be capable off to be able to get every single question wrong (intentionally)? That is an interesting question actually. Certainly over 1500 I would think…</p>
<p>Realistically, how easy or difficult would it be to score exactly 200 on each SAT section? Would you need to answer every question incorrectly?</p>
<p>Perhaps 600 is as difficult to achieve as a 2400; if so, it would make an applicant stand out, I would suppose.</p>
<p>Maybe the best SAT submission would be two single sitting scores, a 600 and a 2400.</p>
<p>Edit: crosspost with above</p>
<p>Ten character</p>
<p>@ Dreams Someone who stands out so prominently in one aspect of his application definitely has the potential to score over 600 in all 3 sections of the SAT with minimalistic preparation (except if he completely lacks basic English skills ( Highly Unlikely)</p>
<p>Debarghya- If you do not mind me asking how much did your friend score on the SAT?</p>
<p>600 would definitely be a lot easier than a 2400 seeing as to how every question has at least 1 option that does not correlate even slightly to the question.</p>
<p>To get every single question wrong? I think it’d need someone who knows all the right answers (to account for the hardest questions on the SAT the incorrect choices for which may not be that obvious)</p>
<p>Answer: Silverturtle!</p>
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<p>Yes, he definitely has the potential to score much better than a 600, but maybe the reason would have been priority! The test is more about preparation than about intellect. He might have made 1 or 2 attempts and later thought that the time would be better spent in doing something unique/national/international/writing book/raising thousands of dollars and sponsoring children’s education/something real awesome than keep on increasing the score.</p>
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<p>He might have not known this US Colleges stuff earlier and when he got to know about it, there was not much time for more than 2 SATs, 1 Subject day (3 papers), etc</p>
<p>You get me? It’s priority…</p>