Purdue
Illinois
Columbia (3-2 ENGINEERING PRGRAM FROM LIBERAL ARTS)
Washington - St.Louis(3-2 ENGINEERING PROGRAM FROM LIBERAL ARTS)
Minnesota
Completion of 3+2 programs by transfer to the 2 school is rare. So these would be the less desirable options.
3/2 Engineering programs are a sucker’s bet.
Agreed, if you want to do engineering best to go to a school where you can do engineering from the start.
IDK… I heard that engineering students in Columbia merely learn general things for 2 years.
I would say it is a sucker’s bet, but almost every LAC guarantees the transfer with minimum of 3.2 GPA
I will definitely go to UIUC if I can get accepted!
For 3+2 students, admission as a transfer to Columbia requires a 3.30 GPA (both overall and pre-engineering courses), no grade lower than a B in any pre-engineering science course, and three favorable recommendations. In addition, Columbia does not claim to meet 100% of what it defines as financial need for 3+2 students, unlike for other students (and a 3+2 program is an extra year of cost anyway).
http://undergrad.admissions.columbia.edu/apply/combined-plan
For a variety of reasons, the number of students who actually follow through on 3-2 programs is very low.
These programs tend to provide a more theoretical (i.e pure science vs. applied science) education which is more appropriate for an academic/research career or a career outside of engineering. If you want to go that route, then a full undergrad degree in science coupled with a masters or Phd in Engineering or a 4 year engineering degree from a school that offers a degree in Engineering Science tends to be a better option.
Most entry level engineering jobs in the Industrial sector tend to favor a less theoretical/more applied science approach.
Williams College has a web page on pre-engineering advising. Here is an excerpt from that page:
There is going to be very little difference in the quality of the engineering education or the outcomes between Purdue Illinois, or Minnesota. If forced to rank them I’d say UIUC, Purdue, Minnesota, however it would depend on what you wanted to major in. Minnesota is tops in ChemE. All are large universities but have different feels. Minnesota is in a large city, the other two are college towns. In my opinion Purdue has a more compact feel than UIUC inspite of being quite large. Purdue does not guarantee acceptance in to a specific major. You complete their First Year Engineering curriculum and apply to your major the second semester. Like others I wouldn’t encourage a 3+2 program. If you want to be an engineer apply to a school as an engineering major.
“Please rank these schools solely by engineering”
UIUC followed by Purdue followed by Columbia followed by Minnesota followed by WUSTL…except in Chemical Engineering, in which case, Minnesota, followed by UIUC followed by Purdue followed by Columbia followed by WUSTL.
Alright, then, can I ask why UIUC is better than Purdue.
Growing up in the mid-west, I heard from lots of people thatUIUC and Purdue are at the same level.
Ivvcsf said; “There is going to be very little difference in the quality of the engineering education or the outcomes between Purdue Illinois, or Minnesota.” An excellent comment and quite accurate.
Consider costs…
One other thing to check is whether you will be admitted directly to the major, or if you can choose or change your major easily. Purdue and Minnesota do not admit directly to engineering majors; engineering frosh must apply to the major after completing their frosh level courses. The threshold GPA for most majors at both of these schools happens to be 3.2, with lower GPA students being admitted to the majors which have space available.
“Alright, then, can I ask why UIUC is better than Purdue.
Growing up in the mid-west, I heard from lots of people thatUIUC and Purdue are at the same level.”
The difference is insignificant. Both are excellent in Engineering. I would only give UIUC the edge by the smallest of margins.
If you are from OOS for all three, U-MN will be cheapest, and quite similar in quality.
Thank you for the reply guys!!
Yes, I am an OOS/International. In this regard, I really want to get accepted in UMN so that i can save money.
I am not sure I can get accepted in CSE in UMN tho. I found out that UMN is harder to get in than Purdue even though Purdue is ranked higher for most of engineering majors except chem engineering.
Is It worth it to pay Purdue’s tuition that is abt 10,000 per yr more than UMN?
It was interesting to find out some drawbacks and superfluousness about 3-2
By CSE do you mean College of Science and Engineering or Computer Science and Engineering (which resides in the College of Science and Engineering) ?
Sorry!
I mean college of science and engineering
If you’re concerned about cost, a 3-2 program is even more of a sucker bet. Why sign up for 5 years of tuition?
I merely wanted to know is it worth enough to pay that much tuition for 3-2