<p>According to the Daily News, you show your card to get into the building but then their reporters were largely free to move around and took the elevator to the basement, which did not need card access. They did this 3 days after the crime. Specific labs may have their own card access</p>
<p>I can’t imagine why anyone would think there’d be security cameras in labs. Talk about invading privacy.</p>
<p>I don’t really understand this call for cameras everywhere. It seems like many posters want cameras in every room, hallway, and area of every building. In a fair size building you would need a number of security people sitting around watching monitors 24/7. For the full Yale Campus (in buildings and everywhere else) you would need hundreds of people sitting around watching monitors 24/7.</p>
<p>As someone pointed out, unless there is a security person actively watching a monitor, cameras don’t prevent crime, they just help after the fact.</p>
<p>More importantly, my condolences to the family and many friends of the victim.</p>
<p>the perpetrator would need a card to have access to the animal room, however.</p>
<p>this is so sad. she has everything ahead of her…
not to mention the to be husband must be crushed to death due to this incident.</p>
<p>my condolences~</p>
<p>My condolences to the Le family. After listening to this news we have not been able to sleep properly and have been calling our DD every few hours. We still remember last summer when we visited Yale. We never felt comfortable with the surrounding, the place just not up to mark for an elite Ivy. We discussed at length and DD made which in hind sight seems a right decision to not apply at all.
We know that no place is safe from such activities and everyone have to be cautious of the surroundings but Yale surroundings can provide more nurturing places for such psychos.</p>
<p>There are some sick besterds in this world. And something I’ve noticed in the what, last 3 college campus murders? All involved an asian student. 2007, seung hui cho, vtech massacre. 2008, asian guy beheaded his girlfriend at vtech? 2009, asian girl is murdered and stuffed behind a wall? Nothing against asians, my best friend is one. My prayers to Le’s family and friends.</p>
<p>cardfan, no one on these threads has even suggested that cameras should be everywhere–inside the lab rooms or every area of the building. It is reasonable for there to be security cameras in hallways. At the very least, they should have been in the basement where one can’t even use a cell phone to call for assistance. As far as needing hundreds of people to sit around monitoring security camera–this idea is ridiculous. It doesn’t take hundreds of people to monitor security cameras in one building. Students have felt uncomfortable with the lack of security for a while. This was discussed in the link that I posted earlier.</p>
<p>What bothers me is that students had felt uncomfortable before this incident. The fact that this building was known to have NO SECURITY cameras inside and the fact that students can’t rely on cell phone service in parts of the building makes it an easy place for a nut/criminal to carry out harm to someone.</p>
<p>I keep hearing “Be aware of your surrounding.” Even my D’s college has this sentence on the web, along with: If you are being approached, be firm, and said: BACK OFF (Are they kidding???). So what exactly does it mean? It cannot apply to all situations?</p>
<p>Obviously you don’t want to say “back off” to everyone you see. That’s rude and unfriendly. But if you notice some big guy stalking you, following you around every corner in town for 10 min+, then it’s time to watch your back.</p>
<p>nysmile - The building has 5 floors, so only 5 people would be needed to monitor cameras. I am sure the school could have start a new club for this purpose. What bother me is not the fact that student did not feel secure before. It is the fact that the U must have been made aware of it and did nothing.</p>
<p>Exactly misterpop92. Criminal methods has evolved over the years. What better first hand source of information with regards to criminal psychology, then research colleges. Yet, to protect students, these colleges still publish sentences I taught my D. when she was 5.</p>
<p>eucalyptus2: Re: my comment about manning security cameras. Obviously, my point was directed to cardfan who made the comment that it would take hundreds of people to monitor cameras. It will only take a few people to man cameras within this building. I also mentioned that students had been uneasy about the lack of security even before this incident. </p>
<p>Again, Yale is not responsible for the actions of this deranged person but they should be responsible for providing decent security within the building itself. Card swipes inside a research building is less security than what most high schools and department stores have inside their buildings.</p>
<p>You are right about that. I just heard they won’t release the authopsy report, why? Does anyone know?</p>
<p>maybe she was murdered in such a gruesome way that its beyond an nc-17 rating. actually idk. hope for some more info soon.</p>
<p>The only info I’ve seen is this:</p>
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[Arrest</a> may be near in Annie Le slaying](<a href=“http://www.newsday.com/long-island/annie-le-autopsy-to-be-released-1.1445629]Arrest”>http://www.newsday.com/long-island/annie-le-autopsy-to-be-released-1.1445629)</p>
<p>Security cameras prevent crime by their presence, not by the fact that they are monitored. The idea that somebody would be watching a bank of monitors, see something suspicious, and then call in the cavalry is movie fantasy. Security cameras are most useful in after the fact investigations, not in prevention.</p>
<p>And don’t for a second underestimate the costs associated with monitoring cameras. It’s not one person per floor - have you seen the size of these floors? And nobody is capable of watching for more than an hour or so without zoning out; you have to have shifts to maintain vigilance. A crew to monitor five floors in this building is at least a dozen employees which, after paying employee benefits, would cost between $500,000 and $1,000,000 per year. This isn’t five guys making minimum wage. Also, don’t forget that you won’t be able to monitor inside offices and bathrooms so there will always be insecure areas.</p>
<p>A more likely monitoring scenario is one employee monitoring a huge bank of monitors as a second line of defense after an initial alarm of some sort. For example, a door is opened, an alarm sounds, and that camera is then monitored. Problem is, that wouldn’t have stopped this crime.</p>
<p>Just found this on the NY Times site:</p>
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<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/nyregion/16yale.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/nyregion/16yale.html</a></p>
<p>I just heard the person they suspected is an employee and live in a town outside New Haven. He hired a lawyer and stop cooperating. At least, he is not on campus.</p>
<p>YDN and at least one other source are now reporting that cops have gone to the home of a Yale lab technician in Middletown, Ct. Roommate (!) answered door and said he’s not there. (He is probably under surveillance.) I may be jumping to conclusions but I assume they have a search warrant and are looking for evidence. </p>
<p>If this is the guy, I hope the cops/DA build an airtight case.</p>
<p>This may be–again, I’m speculating–the reason why they haven’t released the cause of death (beyond homicide). They may be looking for the weapon.</p>
<p>Again, I’m speculating and admit that.</p>
<p>The only way to prevent such incidents in my opinion is to provide each student and employee a wireless panic button on their student id or employee card. The button when pressed give information to the campus police the location and ID of the employee.</p>
<p>That is the closet possible deterrent for such crimes. Other features that can be added is the camera closets to the location zoom to the location of the crime.</p>