<p>I agree. I certainly agree.</p>
<p>then pay your full freight and move on or only attend schools that give lousy aid then you are assured that evey one is either paying or taking out massive loans.</p>
<p>Nick, you're too ignorant to go to College, so why do you even care?</p>
<p>**** you. no pun intended.</p>
<p>Everyone has a right to an opinion, but fortunately the vast number of people disagree with Zhao. Many of the most brilliant people in the world are from humble beginnings. And for that matter,even more of the most brilliant people in the world work jobs which may not have as many financial benefits (such as most teachers) to gain other compensation such as satisfaction and happiness.</p>
<p>In my opinion, anyone who works hard should be given a shot, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation.....and financial circumstance. Consequently, I am against affirmative action, but for socialism to provide funds for those who need need financial assistance. I may be going off on a tangent, but I support immigration. I do, however, look down upon immigrants who cross the border just to sit and collect welfare checks. I am a strong supporter of meritocracy and therefore believe that even poor people should be able to attend college.</p>
<p>ignore him. Look at all his past posts--he just signed up to start threads and get attention</p>
<p>I totally agree with Nick Zhao, but I would go one step further. I believe that whites, who are intellectually inferior to us Asians, don't deserve college.</p>
<p>HAhahahaahahahahahahaha.
Hahahahahahahaha.
HAhahahaha.
Just adding to the noise here, sorry.</p>
<p>Don't joke, that's what happens in most countries. However, I do agree with the arguement that not everyone can afford every college. There is often an attitude that it's just so unfair that someone can't afford their first choice college because their family can't meet their EFC. Colleges are just another consumer product. Some can afford a BMW, others feel lucky to have a Saturn. There are people who make $100K/yr driving a Beemer and others with that salary driving that Saturn. Choices, priorities. So our families can save and live in smaller houses to afford Harvard and take out huge loans, or they can live larger and not be able to afford Harvard. Actually, I think full need schools do the right thing--the poor can go, they had fewer choices in most cases.</p>
<p>I believe there's a great deal of misconception in regards to Financial Aid for poor people. A lot of middle class Americans feel resentful that they are struggling with high EFCs and low need-based aid while poor folks are having an easier time. Poor people never have an advantage. Its likely they have had an inferior education compared to wealthier students to boot. </p>
<p>Poor students DO NOT get a substantial amount more aid, if any, than their middle class counterparts. Speaking from experience, there are no large coffers of student aid for poor kids, just waiting to be given out. Often times, like me, you will not have enough aid to cover costs. Government aid caps out at unreasonably low levels. When your parents cannot give you a cent for aid, it is very tough to even complete college, let alone merely having debt.</p>
<p>Sorry if I seem rude, but I don't have much sympathy for high(er) income students when it comes to financial aid. If you have a 300k house, its hard to be sympathetic when other parents rent and cannot contribute and money.</p>
<p>I've struggled to put myself through school. I haven't been enrolled in years because there is no way to get the money I need. If there were unlimited funds available for poor students, I would have graduated twice already.</p>
<p>Pitt, I don't get it. If your parents have no money and no home, why are there no schools that can meet your needs? Not even your state school with loans? I realize that most need blind schools are very hard to get into, but don't most state schools at least meet needs with loans?</p>
<p>if you have zero efc- then you should be eligible for maximum pell grants- maximum subsidized stafford loans and perkins loans.
you also can earn about $3,000 in summer work and almost that much through work study during the year.
If all that however is still not enough- you may need to attend community college for two years and transfer as a junior to a state school.</p>
<p>Eugh....losers these days..whatever. My EFC was only 300...got maximum Pell grant money and loan money but with all my outside scholarships and grants from Northwestern I won't need loans or work study..I'm also a finalist for the gates scholarship--and if i get that..i pay nothing...those that want to go to college bad enough can go anywhere they choose :)</p>
<p>When you say that you can earn money working in the summer, sure you can, if you live at home and have your bills covered. When you're on your own, its hard to save when you live paycheck to paycheck. Also, I would've gone to a community college, but there isn't one within 150 miles. Pennsylvania also has one of the worst public university systems in the country. It's pretty awful.</p>
<p>Please, don't get smug. My only intention is to inform and help out. I went to college in 1997, there wasn't these internet resources about financial aid, scholarships, grants, etc. I was clueless about financial aid and my school couselers were worthless.</p>
<p>If you're on your own, you can get asid that will cover living expenses. Now that you have this resource, will you go back?</p>
<p>hahaha we should just drop a another nuclear bomb, preferbly over frankthetank. ;)</p>
<p>Right now, I have every intention to go back. I'm looking for every sort of aid I can find. Hopefully, I will have enough if I work while I'm at school.</p>
<p>Might be time to lock this thread. It'll probably just get out of hand if it stays open....</p>
<p>You know, once you lead the need-blind colleges, it becomes much harder for those who are poor to pay for college. We can't all have perfect GPA's, we can't all be admitted into the ivy league, we can't all get into need-blind schools- which is only a very small amount. And you have to consider that most schools on here are need-blind or give away a lot of financial aid.</p>