<p>Have him do test prep, retake the standardized test as many times as possible until satisfied with the scores, and apply. Speculation on the matter is irrelevant as the admissions process is highly convoluted. An acceptance or rejection letter is the final word.</p>
<p>and Fussman,</p>
<p>While I understand why you would find the NASS first class anecdote to be foolish and pointless, the half hour is not supposed to have actual training value other than to expose to the candidates what it is to be yelled at. Nothing more, nothing less. You would be surprised at how many candidates will break down and cry just being around the environment of raised voices. Perhaps such a person will rethink if he/she really wants to commit to attending the academy. The purpose of NASS is to reasonably show candidates all facets of the Naval Academy and make an informed decision.</p>
<p>Fussman</p>
<p>LOL talk about arrogance!
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And this is ridiculous nonotherless, I can totally see why my fellow shipmates hate Naval Academy officers so much.. the obvious arrogance is palpable. Since they're 90% civilian to begin with.. I see how they can only forge their opinions of The NAvy based on what the Academy is like...The Fleet is completely different. Good.. I'll be able to take my experiences there.. and I'll be a better O because of it. Not a total dick.
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<p>I am not sure what exactly you are implying. Rest assured, I have seen priors have a tough time at USNA and end up leaving. If you go in believing you are better than the upperclass, b. better than your plebe mates coming from HS or even collage, and c. thinking you will ultimately be a better officer than your USNA shipmates you are destined to be eaten alive.</p>
<p>I hope that you don't also "hate Naval Academy Officers" since your Commandant and Supe are both grads.</p>
<p>Current,</p>
<p>Fussman will figure that out in a hurry when it's time. In his defense, you know as I do that some people from the academy are going make/are terrible officers. Academy grads get a bad rap because a few misrepresent us as a whole. It is, in fact, wrong to generalize about academy grads as a group but Fussman can only comment on what he has been exposed to.</p>
<p>At this point it may not matter anymore, it looks like he is going to be a recruited athlete, for football. A coach that recruited him when he was in 8th grade, for a local High School, and is very in touch with the Navy coaching staff is going to recommend him. This coach has had players get recruited by Navy in the past. My son did not play for him, but every time he played against him, my son had monster games. His words to me were that he loves seeing a great kid go to the Academy.</p>
<p>Whooaaa.. back up for a second there folks.</p>
<p>For the first person that criticized my post.. I know that that "half hour" isn't training. I've been to boot camp. Everyone gets bashed regardless of how squared away they are, and it's all to push the person to their limits. I understand that.
- The only thing concerning that is is that I found it quite entertaining when I read that an upperclassman chewed the crap out of this guy. NOW, don't get your torches and pitchforks out, let me explain myself. I'm perfectly aware that upperclassmen do the same exact thing at USNA, and I don't have a problem with it. To me, though, it's on the same level as when I see a Marine Lance Corporal chew a Private First Class's head off. It's hilarious to me because that one little rank gives these people this attitude of superiority. And for another example, I feel the same way about some E-7 that acts like a dick to his juniors just because he put those khakis on and thinks he's some kind of god. You lead by example.</p>
<p>Now.. at a training command, that is completely different, and that is where I find it all acceptable.</p>
<p>For "rackrace1136" and Currentmid.. you don't need to put words in my mouth. AND you don't need to be defending the status you're aspiring to have. Buddy, I'm coming to the Academy ALSO, with the SAME goals in mind as you. </p>
<p>Now.. I never stated that I was better, or thought so for that matter, than any upperclassman, fellow plebes, or anyone. It would be a huge mistake to bring an attitude like that to the table. I've never thought I was better than anyone, and will only use my experience to help my fellow shipmates. What I did state is that some (Like Rackrace said) of the Midshipman that become officers assume they have this golden aura around their heads, and push everyone around like worthless dogs. They are built up so far in USNA they assume that they're the top tier of the world or something. (When I stated 90% civilian is that their opinion of the Navy and what it is like is only based on the experiences at USNA.. and they don't realize the real Navy is completely different. That was all). And that is why some of my Superiors stated they didn't like USNA officers.. to them, A Mustang (Prior-Enlisted O) possessed the humility of an Enlisted member because he/she had been through the ranks and knew what it was like. And I will too try bring that knowledge with me and try to become a better officer MYSELF, not better than anyone else. You take things waayyy out of context.</p>
<p>Rackrace.. don't bash me with your meaningless remarks of "He'll find out soon enough..." Seriously? What gives you the authority to make such pretentious comments? This is especially absurd due to the way you completely misconstrued my above post, and on that matter.. I think it is you who needs a wake-up call.</p>
<p>And it would be quite hypocritical to hate the Commandant of the Marine Corps and CNO because they're USNA grads... when I'm going to USNA to be an officer also. Hmm?</p>
<p>ChrisFussman, I wish you the best. I was given the opportunity to go to the USNA while I was in bootcamp at PI. The XO pulled me and a couple of others into his office and told us we scored real high on the ASVAB and if we wanted, we could go to NAPS for a year, then attend the Academy.He laid out that it was a 10 year committment. I was not wise enough at that time to see 10 years in the future, besides, I had already finished one year at a very good university and did not want to waste it. He also told us if we washed out we would be sent to the fleet as an E-1. He told us we would not be Marines, we would be squids. He then began to tel us how we did not want to be around squids to such a large extent. He told us we were almost Marines and there is nothing better. I decided not to accept because of the 10 year committment, the washout issue, and most importantly I was in love, she dumped me a few years later. I regret that decision to this day.
I give you props, what you are doing is very commendable, and you are right, Mustang officers are the best in the Marine Corps. I was on track for that, but decided against it after I finished college. Good luck to you, you will do well. Semper Fi Brother. Also, isn't the current Commandant of the Marine Corps from Southwest missouri State or something like that?</p>
<p>Thank you so much, I really appreciate that.</p>
<p>Say.. you're still in right?</p>
<p>Where are you stationed at? Hope not the good ol' Camp Lejeune... you probably know how it is here.</p>
<p>HOORAH! :)</p>
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Rackrace.. don't bash me with your meaningless remarks of "He'll find out soon enough..." Seriously? What gives you the authority to make such pretentious comments? This is especially absurd due to the way you completely misconstrued my above post, and on that matter.. I think it is you who needs a wake-up call.
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<p>You will find out soon enough. </p>
<p>I wish you the best at USNA Fussman, but getting off to a poor start by trash talking those whom are already there will not be in your favor. Watch what you say and definitely where you say it.</p>
<p>I believe the Commandant in the post refers to Captain Klunder.</p>
<p>I was actually going to you argue back, but you know what?</p>
<p>You're right. I'm wrong.</p>
<p>There is no need to get personal with a forum discussion and this is certainly leading towards that direction. I'm out.</p>
<p>Next time though.. please read my full post and know what I mean before flaming me for all to see.</p>
<p>Chris, I have been out a long time. If my son goes there, I will have him look you up. I was stationed at the Stumps, Cheery Point, and Phila Naval Base. All lovely spots.</p>
<p>Ohh.. okay. It sounded like you were a vet, but I was just making sure! :)</p>
<p>Yeah, definitely, that would be pretty neat! He sounds like a motivator for sure.. working and living along people like him will be quite humbling, to say the least. Definitely excited to be there.</p>
<p>Just trying to pass the time at Lejeune.. this place gets worse and worse everyday. Haha.. but Cherry Point's pretty nice.. been there a few times myself.</p>
<p>But hey, good luck to your son.. I'm sure he'll get in, USNA, or even somewhere better. They don't just toss people that qualified aside.</p>
<p>If you can, just get him to take the SAT again. The second time I took it my score upped 80 points. It's always good to get acquanted with the test itself. If he can learn from his mistakes in the first test (ie taking too long with each question) I'm sure he'll do better on the second testing. Math scores are the most important. One of my class mates had a 1260, but his math was a 560, so unfortunately he recieved a letter last week from USNA saying that they could not offer him an appointment. We vault together, but who knows it could be that steel plate in his arm that made them decide he wasn't qualified...</p>