Possible Shooter at UCLA?

This is so sad. I know homicides affect everyone on the campus and the nearby community, even those who didn’t know the victim.

Prof. Klug was a friend of friends of ours.

Oh my God. The UCLA student newspaper is reporting that some professors ignored the lockdown and just continued lecturing rather than secure their rooms!! That is terrifying.

LATimes identifies the gunman as a former doctoral student who accused the Prof of stealing his IP (“code”).

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mainak-sarkar-ucla-20160602-snap-story.html

@bluebayou that is awful :frowning: I can’t believe no one saw his rants on social media and wised up to ask the police to watch him… Plus the “justification” was a stolen IP??? That shooter is disgusting human filth

What is an “IP”? Also, from the linked article, it looks like he already got his phd, in 2013? That surprised me, as I expected it to be an issue that was preventing him from graduating!

Intellectual property, like a patent or software code.

Oh, ok. I’ve never seen intellectual property abbreviated like that before. It just made me think “IP address.” :wink:

.And this whole thing has gotten stranger. They found a “kill list” and found a woman dead in Minnesota that was on the list.

This is the story about the “kill list” and the woman he killed in Minnesota.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-mainak-sarkar-ucla-20160602-snap-story.html

Clearly, this guy had problems that went far beyond being unhappy about “bad grades.”

All intellectual property (“code”) of UCLA employees (both, Prof. and former student) belongs to the employer (UCLA). It may (and should be) used for educational purposes. This is part of a UCLA employee agreement, that grad students signed as a condition of employment. All his work product belonged to UCLA.

I’ve returned to my normal state of mind. It was so hard to watch everything unfold on TV, and knowing DD was close by. She said she was about to walk to campus when the first text alerts came.

According to DD and my friends’ FB messages about their kids, some classes continued with lectures and early finals. Since students often turn off or silence their cell phones during class and especially during tests, many including professors, did not know of the text alerts and what was happening.

This incident identified that problem as well as unlockable doors, areas of campus that couldn’t get a reliable cell signal, and issues with coordinating first responders. Identifying these problems will result in campuses across the nation to take a critical look at themselves in order to become safer for our kids.

Why nobody took action when he posted his hatred on social networks 3 months ago?

^^ Because there are so many hateful commentaries that readers become desensitized? Because people routinely post dumb things just to vent? Because there isn’t enough law enforcement to investigate every nut job who post hostile stuff online?

^ People in his circle and UCLA community did not see that?
This is a post from a PhD researcher against an UCLA professor, not like other posts.

“Why nobody took action when he posted his hatred on social networks 3 months ago?”

What “action” should be taken, in a free country such as ours? This isn’t China or Russia where saying the wrong thing means you disappear.

Another self-important madman takes an innocent life for some perceived slight. This killer took TWO lives. And his rants about stolen intellectual property get no consideration from me. What did the Minnesota woman have to do with the alleged intellectual property? Nothing, we will likely discover. I guess the killer never heard of a lawsuit.

MIT engineering professor Bose and his son, an MIT Student, once squabbled with the school over some invention by Bose the younger. It didn’t end in bloodshed.

It sounds like the shooter was seriously mentally ill. Did he get a gun despite the mental illness?

post 64- “Why nobody took action when he posted his hatred on social networks 3 months ago” How different are his posts then one of the candidates for president? If some one can post his comments it would be helpful

If he had mental health issues, he may have acquired the guns in one or more the following ways:

a. The mental health issues may have been undiagnosed and thus could not have been reported to the gun purchase background check database.
b. Known mental health issues do not always get reported to the gun purchase background check database (see http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/264712-obama-administration-tackles-privacy-concerns-with-gun-background-checks ).
c. He may have acquired the guns before the mental health issues surfaced.
d. He may have acquired the guns legally in a way where background checks were not required (e.g. purchase from private party, commonly called the “gun show loophole”).
e. He may have acquired the guns illegally.

I bet that 2nd professor that he couldn’t find (who apparently was in the building, too) is feeling pretty shaken at this point.

*One stray comment about Switzerland and the thread careens off topic. Please stick to the specifics of the UCLA situation, not what you wish the gun laws were or anything else that really doesn’t address the topic directly. Deleting numerous posts.