<p>Hello, I am a high school student who if accepted and all things go right will have 57 credits at UofM ann arbor through transfer/AP/IB. (the max is 60 i know). So assume I take the set max of 18 credits per semester everytime. If i were to take the fall and winter semesters the payment for that would be considered lower division correct? (I would have 57 credits and junior is 60 or more) Then after that, am I able to take 18 credits for each of the spring and summer terms, just pay twice the summer tuition amount like it states on the website? (Office</a> of Financial Aid: Cost of Attendance). So, now how I am seeing it is I would have 57 + 18*4 = 129 credits? Which is enough to get a BA in mathematics correct? (If all the nessecary classes are taken of course) Is this possible? I know that perphaps that schedule conflicts would occur and classes would not line up possibly, but assume i could take each required class without schedule conflicts. Can this be done? Graduate in one year? So there is what i have been pondering lately. If anyone can help me out it would be much appreciated. Also, would i be able to get scholarship money for summer terms? Just curious why it is cheaper in summer and if scholarships apply there or not. Sorry for the multitude of questions =) Thanks for your time!</p>
<p>Well I’m guessing you couldn’t fit the sequence of math classes you need in. Also, available courses to take think out in the summer. Finally, you are assuming all of your credits will count directly towards your degree, most likely they won’t.</p>
<p>18 credits every semester will be harder than you think. The options in spring/summer are very limited and go at twice the pace, so 18 credits would be more like 36 by workload, if you can even register that many. You’ll also need the foreign language and any prereqs for your major, so it’s not just a matter of # of credits. Your first semester may be at lower division cost, but not after that. There’s a separate “request for funds” for spring/summer. As for why it’s cheaper, I’d imagine they keep fewer facilities open and it’s accelerated.</p>
<p>I think it’d be far more practical to take 3-6 credits in the spring if needed and plan to take a 2nd year.</p>
<p>Okay, I figured as much. I probably would be taking 2 years. Where do you find the prereqs and requirements for your degree? Are they online? For me im looking for a BA in mathematics. Should i bother to go for a BS? Or is it not really worthwhile, my goal is to go through the government Pathways program and find a job with the government. Thanks for the repsonses!</p>
<p>Do you speak another language fluently or have you taken many foreign languages at the advanced level? If memory serves, Michigan has a 16-credit foreign language requirement for graduation.</p>
<p>Honestly, I am not sure what you hope to accomplish in 1 year at Michigan? Why waste your money with such a pointless experience? Enrol at your local commuter college and graduate from there with less hassle. The point of attending a university like Michigan is to make the most of the experience; networking, exploring different fields of study, attending football games etc…</p>
<p>Yes, they’re online.
[Concentration:</a> Mathematics | LSA Students | University of Michigan<a href=“concise”>/url</a></p>
<p><a href=“http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/undergrad/Program%20Books/2012PrgBklt.pdf[/url]”>http://www.math.lsa.umich.edu/undergrad/Program%20Books/2012PrgBklt.pdf](<a href=“http://www.lsa.umich.edu/students/academicsrequirements/concentrationsminors/mathematics/concentrationmathematics]Concentration:”>http://www.lsa.umich.edu/students/academicsrequirements/concentrationsminors/mathematics/concentrationmathematics)</a> (detailed)</p>
<p>AFAICT, UofM doesn’t offer a BS in Math.</p>
<p>You can technically pass out of the language requirement if you do well enough on the placement exam…</p>
<p>That is correct SoccerWolf, but you do have to be fluent in a foreign language to place out. Four years of high school French won’t come close to cutting it. Students who got 5s in their AP foreign language could not place out of it.</p>
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<p>I think standards for placing out of foreign language requirements have drastically dropped since you were an undergrad or something, because placing out of 3-4 semesters of a language isn’t very difficult at all.</p>
<p>I’ll reiterate some of what others have said, as it mirrors my experience with colleges and throw in some other stuff.</p>
<p>You may have that many credits, but, most likely, many will not count towards your major. Also (I don’t know about UM specifically), many colleges limit the number of credits you are allowed to bring in freshman year.</p>
<p>Because of course sequences, it may be impossible to get all needed prerequisites to take the classes you need to graduate within a year.</p>
<p>What are your post-BA plans? My brothers both graduated/ing in three years. The oldest had more limited opportunities applying to graduate programs, though he came from a great school (GT) with great grades and really strong (research-based) summer internships, part of what hurt him applying to grad schools was losing one summer during which he could have had more research experience to build up his resume.
If you graduate in one year (especially when taking a heavy course-load) you’ll miss out on all sorts of programs/internships/research opportunities/whatever that will be the reason people want to hire you. Just having the coursework (even if you have strong grades) will not help you stand out when it comes to employment or grad schools.</p>
<p>Everything else aside, you’d be stressed nonstop. You would miss the opportunity to make friends, develop important relationships and mature in your college years.</p>
<p>If you have the credits, you can often take graduate-level courses as an undergrad (with professor/department approval). Or, you could try to double-major if you’re interested. You’ve worked really hard so far to get ahead, I think you can turn those hours into great opportunities throughout college. Going through as fast as possible can hurt you in the long-run, and may be an empty pay-off.</p>
<p>Thank you all for the advice. I will keep it all in mind. In terms of a language, if I do good on the IB french exam i can get 8 credits for it, idk if that is enough or not. I will definitely take things slower and learn overtime.</p>
<p>Also, if I go into the math program and have already taken calculus 1, 2, and 3 and differential equations where would i be starting on the sequence of math? With all of these credits i feel like my schedule will be difficult to create. Just curious do they help you out and try to accomdate for those who are beyond the average knowledge of math coming in? I will be in a weird area haha.</p>
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<p>You reach junior standing at 55 credits so if you enter with 57 credits you will be paying upper division tuition on day one. Even if you enter with 54 credits you will be paying upper division tuition in winter term.</p>
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<p>The spring and summer terms are half terms. The half-terms are only seven weeks long but you attend twice as many hours per week. A nine credit load would be comparable to an 18 credit load in fall or winter</p>
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<p>I couldn’t agree more.</p>
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<p>Just so you know, that’s not uncommon at all. There are easily 20 people from my high school every year who have Calc 3+DiffEq or more by graduation. Most of them end up going to Michigan.</p>
<p>Look through the courses and see what you want to take. Definitely you should take 217 (or 513). You also should make sure your DiffEq class counts for a math major (just 216 won’t) and if not you have to take the appropriate DiffEq class. Then maybe 412/512 and/or 451. You could take 525 but you might want to wait until you’ve taken 451 first.</p>
<p>If you’re really determined to get out as quick as possible, I will warn you that 451 is one of very few math classes offered in spring but it is recommended for pretty much every other math class so…</p>
<p>Yeah, you won’t be the only one with calc 3+ exp coming in. Especially don’t act like you are. Also hope that it all actually transfers…</p>
<p>spring and summer term are all 9 credits max and courses offered during this time frame are very limited, so no, you won’t make it in one year.</p>
<p>I think Michigan loves when students come in with lots of credits: 55 credits incurs upper level tuition, as mentioned by other posters. These credits (AP, dual enrollment, community college credits earned before graduating from high school, etc.) generally cannot be used to fulfill distribution or major requirements. Have you looked into other distribution requirements besides foreign language?</p>
<p>By the way, Michigan is a great place for advanced and talented math students who have a genuine love of the subject. They offer a large number of courses including several honors sequences.</p>