My county in NY is becoming quite the hot spot! We have the 2nd highest positivity rate in the state right now (well as of 12 hours ago). We have a great outdoor concert venue that has already hosted a few big concerts plus we are home to a unique sporting venue that attracts many many thousands of visitors. We still are masked whenever we are in public places.
52% of the positive cases in the last 7 days are breakthrough infections, 42% of the current active cases are breakthroughs and 25% of those in the hospital are people who were fully vaxxed. D has a job working in a deli, DH is immunocompromised, we are all fully vaxxed but I think she will be leaving her job a week or two earlier than planned.
I had gone back o the gym in June, but am now more uncomfortable. I wore a mask the other day which was no fun. Now I am skipping the gym. Don’t like the rising numbers.
I’m curious where you’re getting this data from. I’d love a source where I could see such things locally (or NY/VA/NC/FL - states I care about due to relatives).
ETA: And in my dream world I’ve love to see it broken down by age, co-morbidities, time of last vax, and which type of vax.
You beat me to it, Creekland! From NY’s covid dashboard, I can see where helpingmom40 lives, but I don’t see anywhere to see what percentage of cases and hospitalizations are breakthroughs.
The 3 of us are vaccinated, but we all have risk factors, so we are not sure how well the vaccine protects us. For that reason we waited until the risk level was “Low” in our area before we resumed dining indoors in restaurants. We felt free to go mask-less in stores and other indoor areas where masks were not required.
Now, however, cases are rising rapidly here in CT; the risk level is back to “High” and I think it will go even higher before long. We have resumed wearing masks in stores etc. and have stopped dining indoors in restaurants.
If almost everyone is vaccinated, vaccine resistant strains will become dominant. So vaccinated people should continue to wear masks to make sure vaccine-resistant strains don’t grow and so they die out.
The article has disappeared from my feed so I cannot cite this, but evolutionary theory would support the idea that we should all keep wearing masks, distancing and so on.
I wondered if it was being done on an individual health department basis. That is amazing. They must have some great system of keeping track, especially considering the CDC doesn’t care about breakthroughs unless there is hospitalization or death.
I read the WaPo’s article this morning about the leaked CDC report that will be published tomorrow. The scary thing that stood out to me was there are 35,000 breakthrough infections every week. While that works out to be whatever percentage of vaccinated people, the number of infections is still going up but the level of vaccines isn’t going up at the same rate that it was.
That’s a nifty tool! Can you take a screenshot of the lower lines too?
Considering Israel has started boosters in those >60, I wish the US would offer the option to any who want it too. It seems to me the writing is on the wall.
I am continuing to wear my mask whenever I am indoors. At this point, having come so far in this pandemic, I am not willing to risk ‘spoiling’ life for myself! I am out and about, living as ‘normally’ as I can without throwing caution to the wind.
I’m presently in San Francisco and hardly anybody in our hotel is wearing a mask, DESPITE signage at the front doors, lobby & near elevators. I was really surprised by this. I will not get into a crowded elevator, especially with unmasked people, and so I’ve been doing a lot of ‘waiting for elevators’!
At lunch yesterday, a woman behind my husband was coughing, my anxiety spiked. Then another woman, at another table, started coughing, and my anxiety levels rose to just below the roof line, then, a man behind me sneezed and the roof blew off!!! I grabbed my bag and left H to finish eating and pay while I waited in the car!!!
The restaurant at dinner last night was packed, however, every single person who entered, entered wearing a mask; that gave me a bit of comfort because I was a little unnerved after lunch and once again being in such close quarters.
I know of one young couple (both of whom are months post vax) and they each contracted covid; he is more sick than she. Initially, he tested neg. and then positive several days later. They contracted it at an outdoor soccer match in the park, not indoors and not a closed space.
Thanks a ton! Those lines also give me a bit of relief since the numbers are so small. Smaller sample sizes can definitely skew stats. Even with the smaller sample size, those fully vaccinated appear to be doing well since it’s literally only 1 hospitalized and they easily could be in the high risk group as my FIL would be.
Regardless, I still think boosters ought to become optional.
And I really wish ALL health departments would put their data out there so we’d have a larger congregate to look at.
When you say 25% of people currently in the hospital have been fully vaccinated, this is misleading. I see that your screenshot shows there are 1 fully vaccinated and 3 non-vaccinated patients. The sample size of 4 is too small to make any statistically meaningful conclusions.
65.4% population fully vaccinated
42.1% active cases are in fully vaccinated 61.6% lower risk of fully vaccinated having an active case (based on above)
0.7% recovered cases in fully vaccinated
25% (of only 4) current hospitalizations in fully vaccinated (very small sample size)
1.2% (1 out of 77) of fully vaccinated active cases are hospitalized (very small sample size of hospitalized)
2.8% (3 out of 106) of not fully vaccinated active cases are hospitalized (very small sample size of hospitalized)
0% deaths in fully vaccinated
Our synagogue (San Diego) just sent an email advising:
As cases have increased, we are implementing new policies, effective immediately. These policies are based on CDC and State-level guidance, as well as the recommendations of our Reopening Task Force, which met on Thursday, July 29th.
NEW POLICY: To access the synagogue building, everyone must be (1) masked and (2) fully vaccinated. We will require proof of vaccination (i.e. vaccine card or a photograph of your vaccine card) from everyone seeking to enter the building.
The task force includes medical people and a high up official in the county public health department. So they are seeing something in the county numbers (which are rising) of real concern.
Three thoughts:
-The email said nothing about under 12, so I’m wondering if they really will be kept out.
-Apparently the synagogue does not trust its congregants to be honest!?
I wish our (ex) church would do something like that. Unfortunately they are on the other end of the spectrum, which is why “ex” is in there. They aren’t on the extreme other end, but too far for us.
How COVID-19-concerned is everyone here who is vaccinated?
Highly concerned, believe that vaccines are not effective enough, will mostly go back to COVID-19-limited habits.
Somewhat concerned, will avoid the highest risk situations (e.g. eating and drinking in crowded indoor restaurants or bars that do not have a vaccination required policy) and/or increase mask wearing, but not otherwise change behavior.
Not very concerned, will rely on vaccination for protection against unvaccinated virus spreaders.
Somewhat or highly concerned, cannot avoid higher risk situations (e.g. health care worker for COVID-19 patients).
