<p>i was wondering whether it would be better to go to cal or ucla for students who want to go pre-law...for current cal students: hows the student life there?</p>
<p>berkeley's law school (haas) is a lot better than LA's (hastings). So if you are determined to major in pre-law, you'd get better classes/profs at Cal.</p>
<p>but thats for law school...right now im planning to attend either cal or ucla as an undergrad...does cal's law school show preference to its own undergrads?</p>
<p>actually it's harder to get into cal's law school from it's undergrad program - they want more alumni and all that.</p>
<p>but i'm making the point that if you're a pre-law major, i'm assuming you want to take some law related classes, some of which might cross over with classes at the law school. so you would benefit from a superior law school at cal.</p>
<p>Erm, if I'm not mistaken, Berkeley's law school is called Boalt, and its business school is Haas.</p>
<p>can't ucla's law school compete with cal's? i heard that they are pretty much the same.</p>
<p>Allorion you are right. :)</p>
<p>Cal's law school is considered by most to be better than UCLAs. Both are considered to be in the top 15, with UCLA near the 15th, and Cal near the 10 or sometimes higher.</p>
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<p>I'm not sure what you mean by this. It also seems contradictory. Could you explain?</p>
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<p>Very much so. The Legal studies major is taught entirely by Boalt law school profs. UCLA has some classes in various subject taught by UCLA law profs (my brother said his Constitutional law class was one of his best as an undgergraduate history major at UCLA), but law profs teaching undergraduate courses happens far more often at Berkeley than at UCLA. If you are planning on law school, it's probably a bad idea (two main reasons- law schools don't like seeing law undergraduate majors and law majors tend to have poor preparation and do poorly on the LSAT) to major in just legal studies (although minoring in it or double majoring with it could be a great idea).</p>
<p>i just realized like half my posts are random snippets of info I've heard over the years from people. </p>
<p>so i heard from a lawyer who did undergrad at berkeley that boalt doesn't like to accept people who did their undergraduate studies at berkeley because they want to increase the number of cal alumni (since these people are already alumni, having graduated from the undergrad program). </p>
<p>i'm very iffy on this tho. i'm trying to look up stats, but it's not working. :(</p>
<p>EDIT: omg...john yoo teaches at boalt. does anyone else see anything wrong with this?</p>
<p>Who's John Yoo?</p>
<p>An ultra-conservative neocon who is currently writing up academic papers/theories that legitimize Bush's controversial wartime policies.</p>
<p>He co-wrote the PATRIOT ACT.</p>
<p>In 2005, he published a book that basically said, as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, Bush can constitutionally (under his interpretation on the Constitution, of course) do whatever he wants with the military - and that all legislation, like the Presidential War Powers Act, limiting his power to do so (that particular law limited the amount of time to 60 days as to how long the president can send US forces wherever he wants without Congressional approval) is unconstitutional. </p>
<p>He also wrote a legal brief for Bush that concurred with Alberto Gonzalez's one, saying that prisoners at Gitmo are not Prisoners of War and thus not subject to Geneva Convention Standards on Torture. </p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, he is "Famous for arguing that torture, even torture of children, is legal if authorized by the president."</p>
<p>Yes, he went to Harvard for undergrad and Yale Law School, but why in the world is he teaching at BERKELEY Law? Do they want to increase political diversity or something by hiring ultra-conservatives? </p>
<p>(I did a little more research on this, and I'm happy to say that 1/4 of graduates from Boalt wore black armbads at Commencement in protest of his writing the torture memo and wanted him to resign...and he didn't and is still there...)</p>
<p>Here's an interesting anecdote on Boalt.</p>
<p>He's teaching at Boalt because he's an important lawyer, and I bet his not being liberal probably had something to do with it.</p>
<p>LA's law school isn't called Hastings.</p>
<p>The Hastings College of Law is a professional school of the University of California not affliated with any of the undergraduate UC's. It is in San Francisco. It is similar to UCSF where UCSF is just for medical school.</p>
<p>George W. Bush sucks</p>
<p>Deep. . . .</p>
<p>"it's probably a bad idea (two main reasons- law schools don't like seeing law undergraduate majors and law majors tend to have poor preparation and do poorly on the LSAT) to major in just legal studies (although minoring in it or double majoring with it could be a great idea)."</p>
<p>I don't think you can minor in legal studies...</p>