<p>Because it publishes its acceptance rate each year.</p>
<p>st. paul’s website:
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<p>The applicants to Exeter and Andover were about 2700 for the same year.</p>
<p>By the way, if intention matters, I was trying to assure potential applicants not to be intimidated by the small number SPS admits each year. Each applicant would still have the same chance for SPS as he/she applies to a bigger school.</p>
<p>is it because it is a religious affiliated school. not for everyone?</p>
<p>Not necessarily. I think the “market” has factored in the fact that it is a smaller school and admits fewer students. SPS and a few other schools had an acceptance rate lower than 20% last year.</p>
<p>Deerfield - 16%
Andover - 17%
Groton & SPS - 19%</p>
<p>religion doesn’t really permeate the school atmosphere very much. or so i hear :/</p>
<p>In the general Prep School Admission section, there is a thread entitled College Matriculation Statistics which you might want to review. In particular, one of the posters, Lvillegrad, has collated and prepared some phenomenal information. In case they delete my link here, he has a link in one of his postings to his site with precisely this kind of information. The web site is: [Matriculation</a> Stats](<a href=“matriculationstats.org”>http://matriculationstats.org/).</p>
<p>a little surprised that top day schools in the country aren’t mentioned much on CC, or more to the point, compared to boarding schools in key areas - marticulation, quality of faculty, etc.
Marticulation statistics can be manipulated in all sorts of ways ( intentionally or not ), but some of the east coast day schools have placed extremely high, sometimes at the top of these lists. One has to assume the quality of education is comparable. Or is it ?</p>
<p>There has been the forever discussion - top of the class at public school or middle at prep? Which is better? It’s kind of like the B in an honors/AP class or A in regular? </p>
<p>At a recent college planning workshop, with 2 college admissions professionals present, they both said they look at the school profile. Of course, most of the preps are well known, but the profile goes with the transcript. In my son’s school’s case, they also include on the back of the transcript how many students are in a class - AP chemistry for example, and then how many A’s, B’s C’s etc were earned. That way the college knows how hard the class was. </p>
<p>I was also talking recently to someone who has close ties to Military Academy admissions and he said that from a public school you HAVE to be top of the class , from a prep school, pretty much top half. And that they do their own weighting on gpa’s.</p>
<p>a little surprised that top day schools in the country aren’t mentioned much on CC, or more to the point, compared to boarding schools in key areas - marticulation, quality of faculty, etc.</p>
<p>I’m guessing that the main reason they aren’t mentioned much here is that they have an audience that’s generally limited to their local area. Students aren’t limited by geography in attending boarding schools. </p>
<p>As you can see from my website, some of the top day schools (particularly in NYC) post stronger matriculation statistics than the top boarding schools. As I mention on the website, I do not necessarily believe that stronger matriculation statistics make a school “better” than another school. There may be a number of factors which contribute to these differentials, but I certainly don’t have a clear definitive explanation of the efffect. (Other than that we in NYC are just better than everybody else. :))</p>
<p>I might add that my older son applied for 9th grade this year in NYC and we chose not to apply to any of the top 5 schools on the matriculation list (ok, ok, 3 of them are all-girls schools so we really chose not to apply to the top 2 that were available to him) for specific reasons that made those schools not appealing to us.</p>
<p>thanks for a very thoughtful reply, Lvillegrad. I believe it was the quality of the faculty which compelled us to apply to some of the top 5 you have referred to, in spite of the reasons that made those schools not appealing to you 
And having taken that route, a comparison to BS faculties is most intriguing, to say the least.
And speaking of NYC and marticulation, lets not forget a couple of the specialized public schools. Some people go there not just because they are free.</p>
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There is a huge range in either category. TJ is a public school, and a 3rd tier boarding school is a prep. I think in that case, the mix and match should be reversed. I think that certain level of generalization is needed when we discuss the difference between public schools vs. prep schools, but there is a thing called too much generalization. If you look at Lvillegrad’s Matriculation Stats, you can see the huge difference between schools.</p>
<p>And speaking of NYC and marticulation, lets not forget a couple of the specialized public schools. Some people go there not just because they are free.</p>
<p>And in fact, that is exactly the choice my son is facing right now. He really likes Stuyvesant and feels that he will fit in there. I have a feeling that his decision may not be made final until the last moment.</p>
<p>Sounds like that final decision is not immune to Mar 10th date either. Sounds all too familiar.
Finally found your website, took some clicking around but got there at the end. Any special reason Stuy is missing, while Hunter and BronxSci included?
Picking Stuy over BS and DS - well, I don’t think it’s so much a question of what the kid is giving up, but rather the kid <em>knowing</em> what he’s giving up, so there are no major disappointments along the way. It’s safe to assume the kids from the day school system take some things for granted.</p>
<p>Where does Hotchkiss, Groton, Middlesex and Taft stand compared to HADES? How are they perceived by College Admissions? second tier? </p>
<p>Also, I see Lawrenceville frequently rated as a top 5 in the US along with PEA, PA, Choate, and SPS. I saw from its website it is in NJ. Are there fewer applicants or are the New England Boarding Schools more highly prized? Don’t see it mentioned too often here.</p>
<p>You do know H as in HADES stands for Hotchkiss don’t you? Check Lvillegrad’s matriculation stats and you will see where these schools stand. And it should be consistent with how they are perceived by college admissions.</p>
<p>Groton is definitely not second tier. and Hotchkiss is the H in HADES.</p>
<p>thanks!!!</p>
<p>personally, I would put Groton over Hotchkiss in HADES to make GADES but I guess thats just not as catchy. 
Same with MX, still up there. Not so much Taft academic wise, but hey- what do I know.</p>
<p>*Sounds like that final decision is not immune to Mar 10th date either. Sounds all too familiar.
Finally found your website, took some clicking around but got there at the end. Any special reason Stuy is missing, while Hunter and BronxSci included?
Picking Stuy over BS and DS - well, I don’t think it’s so much a question of what the kid is giving up, but rather the kid <em>knowing</em> what he’s giving up, so there are no major disappointments along the way. It’s safe to assume the kids from the day school system take some things for granted. *</p>
<p>First of all, here’s another link so people can find it easier: [Matriculation</a> Stats](<a href=“http://www.matriculationstats.org%5DMatriculation”>http://www.matriculationstats.org)</p>
<p>Stuyvesant is missing simply because I can’t get access to the data! And believe me, I’ve tried! Several people I know with kids there swear to me that the data I’m searching for isn’t made available even to current parents and students behind the password protected section of their website. For Hunter, a graduate from last year gave me the data. For Bronx Science, they handed me the data on a piece of paper when we toured the school last spring.</p>
<p>He’s been in NYC day school since Nursery, so he knows the deal. And although he’d be giving some things up, he’d also be gaining some things, too. Because Stuy is so large, they have a greater variety of so many things that no BS can match (I know that will sound like heresy around here, but it happens to be true). He’s also much more likely to meet a larger cohort of kids he has common interests with, something that’s been tough for him at a smaller school. All that being said, there are many negatives to Stuy vs. BS and NYC DS, too. There’s a lot to weigh and our decision is far from over. We have told him not to consider the cost as being relevant (although it certainly isn’t irrelevant for me, that’s my problem, not his)</p>
<p>I know a kid who can’t wait to get to Stuy, because he wants to go to a top school, but is happy to sit in the back row and never raise his hand. I also know kids who are just the opposite - it’ll be tougher to sell Stuy to them.
Regarding variety at Stuy, I’d have to agree if you were to look at e.g. science curriculum. But could it possibly match the variety and resources of Andover and Exeter in general? Looking at course offerings from those two schools, I get a different impression. (Yes, a very different level of presentation, but nevertheless). The semi-extracurricular activities which cross into the realm of academics, such as playwriting and directing, are also in abundance at BS, while notably absent at Stuy.</p>