<p>Creative: They, like many, will not teach to the AP. But many courses are considered AP courses by the colleges and reviewing bodies like this one and lots of students take AP’s every year. In my mind the sooner we get away from the AP addiction the better, but that is a separate discussion</p>
<p>To others: Do not bother picking apart their statistics. I am simply reporting on what their full data base shows. Obviously there will be differences in many statistics from this site to other sites and by year reported. The big picture appears to be statisticallly sound. But then are SAT’s worth anything either?
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<p>That’s ok, SPS reports a slightly higher number than Prep Review too. And Andover’s website says 42%. So while I suspect the numbers will vary from what they reported to Prep Review at a point in time, the overall comparisons are not too far off.</p>
<p>The ACTUAL IVY+SM matriculation percentage based on the matriculation list on each school’s website:</p>
<p>Andover 2005-2008 (4 year overall): 32.6%
SPS 2005-2008 (4 year overall): 31.28%
Exeter 2006-2008 (3 year overall): 28%</p>
<p>Andover and Exeter (to a lesser degree) are bigger winners in terms of this measurement of college placement, simply because they have bigger class sizes (which were considered by some as a weakness of these schools, understandably). I think many would agree that to achieve a higher PERCENTAGE of ivy matriculation with a smaller group of high caliber students is easier than with a larger group of students of roughly same caliber, where more variations and the requirement of the few “designated” colleges to take more students from the same school make things more difficult.</p>
<p>I wonder why Lawrenceville and Milton seem so less-discussed compared to schools like Hotchkiss… Perhaps it has something to do with HADES. >__></p>
<p>Not many people discuss a lot about hotchkiss either, they just have diligent students and parents that are willing to come on here and share information. Whereas Lawrenceville seemingly does not. Has nothing to do with “HADES”</p>
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<p>Where’s Groton? Hotchkiss? Middlesex? Milton?, not consecutively at the top. These colleges have people who work on boarding schools and know them very well. It seems only logical to me that they have a rough estimate of how many students they usually accept from, lets say an Andover (larger class, more people taken). Whereas they may not accept as many from an SPS because they would be admitting almost everyone that applied (smaller class a little less people taken). I think we all know these colleges would love to accept a majority of these students, but that would be like turning back the time to the days where these schools were feeder schools and necessary to have a good shot at a top college.</p>
<p>It all really balances out in my opinion, and I would say the same thing if I was attending Andover next year.</p>
<p>From what I understand, SPS will have several students turn down Ivys every year in favor of 1st tier liberal arts schools. Perhaps, some students who prefer a smaller boarding school with a tight knit community and small classes, are looking to replicate that experience in college.</p>
<p>That could be the case. Prepreview ranking is based on matricultion not acceptance, but if it was on accpetance, then evey other school’s stats would change too as the same thing could happen in other schools as well.</p>
<p>@mpicz: I believe you and agree your perspective is one way to see it.</p>
<p>Based on the availability of the most recent data published on school websites, 2006-2009 overall IVY+SM matriculation percentages for 3 schools have been calculated:</p>
<p>It seems SPS has slid further down from the 34% prepreview reported last year, but it could be due to the inaccuracy of prepreview statstics, as from what we see they seem to only be able to give “rough ideas” by rounding and “tieing” schools with simiar stats.</p>
<p>SoontoBoard, why do you say: "I’d expect Exeter’s (Ivy college matriculation) to go down a lot this year. Only 27% of new students got Financial aid. " ??
Do you think the Ivy’s are looking for the Financial Aid students more than the others from Exeter, or is it you think the general decrease in financial aid students at Exeter this year means that Exeter is taking in less "Ivy " material Freshmen?
Or is it something totally different?</p>
<p>No, I meant it’s total amount of students receiving financial aid would drop from the statistics given. Sorry for the confusion. I would agree with the latter statement, seeing as they accepted like 71 Level II applicants in the place of Level I’s who needed financial aid. I have no information concerning the former statement, however.</p>
<p>Are level I applicants at Exeter judged by SSAT Scores and elementary school grades? Or is there some formula for socio-economics+ grades to chew on in order to bring in the URM’s? Reducing the Level I’s who need financial aid could in fact raise the Ivy Q factor at the school if the Ivy’s plan to reduce the FA acceptances in turn.
Do the teachers have an idea who the Level I & Level II’s are during the year?</p>
<p>Here’s my understanding of what it is. It’s an internal process in the admissions of Exeter. The practice is that without considering applicants’ ability to pay, they select applications into Level A, Level B, etc. (I am not sure about the terminology but let’s say they use “levels”). Level A is “excellent, we’ll take him”, level B is “very good, we may take him”, level C can be “not so good, we’ll see…”, and if there’s a level D it could be “no way”. For the few years before this year, Exeter took in all the level A students and provided enough FA to all that needed it. However, this past season they threw out some level A students who needed FA and admitted some level B (or level C?) students who didn’t need FA.</p>
<p>Let me try to find the thread that discusses rankings. I was saying there would be less Ivy Admissions because they will have chosen less intelligent students.</p>