Presidential Scholars Program

<p>My D got a perfect 1600 in SAT Math/Reading which is believe is the requirement for being a Presidential Scholar. This program is by invitation only and they need the scores to get any invite. How does one send the SAT scores to this organization, they are not listed by College Board as a College.</p>

<p>That is not the requirement; the requirement is to be one of the top scorers in your state. This means that the cutoff varies by state, but is generally very high. I believe they take around 20 girls and 20 boys.</p>

<p>It is a government program and housed under the Department of Education. You need not to anything; an invitation will be extended to your daughter if her score is high enough. I do not know if they factor in writing, but I believe they do, so I actually don’t know whether she will qualify.</p>

<p>Source: I am a former Presidential Scholar.</p>

<p>Congratulations on being a Presidential Scholar.</p>

<p>They take 30 boys + 30 girls from each State. The only consider Math & Reading not Writing, from SAT or ACT. ( [Frequently</a> Asked Questions – U.S. Presidential Scholars Program](<a href=“http://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/faq.html]Frequently”>Frequently Asked Questions -- U.S. Presidential Scholars Program) ) </p>

<p>When I called the Dept of Ed. they said the College Board sends the score. College Board said they will send scores only if we request it to be sent. The issue we are facing is what is the Code to send the score to. </p>

<p>Obviously you did not send the scrore. Which year did you get the award?</p>

<p>1600 CR + M qualifies the student as a Presidential Scholar candidate. After that, there are essays to complete (usually due around February, and they arrive without a whole lot of lead time). Then the group is narrowed to the Semifinalists. Finally, in the spring, 1 male and 1 female from each state are picked, and additional students with talent in the arts are selected as Presidential Scholars. </p>

<p>You do not send the scores anywhere. The scores will automatically be collected by the people at the Department of Education who run the program, unless your daughter checked a box asking that the College Board not share her scores with any program.</p>

<p>If for some reason, her scores are not picked up automatically by the program, then when the list of candidates comes out, there is a phone number to call, and they will add her to their list. (If this happens, she will have to release the scores at that time, but this is not the usual situation.)</p>

<p>InvolvedDad- Take note of Quant’s explanation^^^. The perfect scores, if sent, will get a student Presidential Scholar Candidate status. Then comes a cut to Semifinalists, then Scholars. </p>

<p>The test scores are just the first hurdle.</p>

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<p>I was a scholar in 2009. They have clearly changed procedures, so my info is worthless to you.</p>

<p>this paragraph from the link above answers OP’s question: You don’t need to send your scores unless you fall into one of the categories mentioned at the end of the paragraph.</p>

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<p>It’s also possible to have more than 30boys/30 girls invited from a state if there are more kids than that who had perfect scores. And as Baelor mentioned, you may not need a 1600 to qualify as long as you are one the top scorers in your state.</p>

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<p>One sitting or superscored?</p>

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<p>Do you know where Presidential Scholars usually end up at college? Later in life?</p>

<p>I can fill this in a bit–my son was also a Presidential Scholar.
The first cut is the highest CR plus M SAT score in each state–30 boys and 30 girls. There can be more in a state if there are more than 30 who have 1600. As noted above, this is supposed to be automatic. (I don’t know if it’s single sitting or superscored, though.)
The next step is an application with essays–a LOT of essays. Many kids choose not to take the time to do this.
Then, 1 boy and girl from each state is chosen (with a few extras). There is an entirely different track for arts-based scholars, which comes through the YoungArts program.
The winners go to a very nice weekend program in Washington at the end of the school year. They get to invite one teacher, as well. Note: there is no scholarship money associated with this program–there is (I recall) transportation reimbursement for the kids if they are from outside Washington (we were local). They get to go to the White House for a ceremony, and may or may not get to meet the President (my son’s year, they met the Vice President). The honor comes too late to be included on college apps.
My son thought it was worth it, although the essays were a lot of work. He was able to repurpose some of his college essays.</p>

<p>As for where the Scholars end up, most of them end up at top schools. But that’s hardly surprising, since they are all top scorers, and had to be picked from that group. Here’s the detailed info:
<a href=“http://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/index.html[/url]”>http://www2.ed.gov/programs/psp/index.html&lt;/a&gt;
Writing portion of the SAT is still not considered, at least for the initial cut.</p>

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<p>Ours sent along an update in early March, if memory serves, to update his RD schools.</p>

<p>The best thing about it, in my view, is the free trip to China. It’s another application, though.</p>

<p>S2 was a candidate with a 36 ACT. We did not request any scores. We find it interesting that his roommate
was also a candidate - was it random or did Prez Scholar folks share eith college?</p>

<p>Congratulations to you guys with a PS in the family.</p>

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<p>I have no concern here but merely curious. If only CR+M count for SAT, how about ACT, M+R only (no E+S, or it’s ME/SR)?</p>

<p>You don’t find out that you’re a semifinalist until mid-April, and they don’t name the Scholars until May. You could notify colleges that you made the initial cut, but that’s based entirely on scores, which they have.</p>

<p>The Presidential Scholars program is based on single-sitting scores.
Students who take the ACT may qualify, based on the ACT sum of scores (not including the optional essay).<br>
The reason that the program uses SAT CR+M but all ACT scores is that a concordance has been developed in the past for those scores, but it hasn’t been reworked since writing was added to the SAT.
The SAT CR+M are converted to ACT sums of scores, and the list of students in each state is ranked by that. I think that SAT 1600 is converted to ACT sum 144. Next in line are ACT sums 143 and 142. After that come SAT 1590 and ACT sum 141 (considered equivalent), and so on. If there are ties at the cut-point, all of the students at the cut-point are included. The score required to become a candidate varies from state to state, and it may also be different for men and women.</p>

<p>I went to the parents gatherings in Washington when my son was a PS. I remember riding on the bus from the hotel to one of the events and sitting by one of the judges. He was very outgoing, very proud of his long involvement with the program. He said that particular year they were very big on girls doing science. Other years it was social conscience. Each year there was seemingly some sort of theme. I remember wondering how my very broad, unfocused kid ever made it! Maybe it was because he was a boy not declaring himself headed into science? </p>

<p>My other memory of those few days were the many families attending en masse with grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles. Our own family just seemed annoyed because it didn’t give scholarship money.</p>

<p>If you get this, it will give you some cred with college roommates and friends, who will find out about it when they Google you.</p>

<p>My S was a semifinalist in 2008. At that time, the top 20 boys and top 20 girls per state, single sitting scores only, were selected in the initial round. In states where there was a tie for the top 20, all of them were selected. So in a big state like California, probably far more than 20 of each gender made the initial cut, but in our state there were just the 20.</p>

<p>There was then an application requiring some essays and some significant input from the HS teacher he asked for a recommendation. (Basically, someone other than the student has to shepherd it through the HS side of the process.) After that, the semi-finalists were declared. In our state, I think there were about 2 or 3 per gender, and IIRC this happened in time for S to notify colleges via a short email before decisions came out. The winners are declared after May 1, but I suppose a kid who was on a waitlist could use it as a potential tip.</p>

<p>The scores were sent automatically, but I do recall another poster here going through some kind of process to have her S’s scores sent, since he qualified but didn’t get the selection notification. Perhaps they had checked the “don’t share scores” box. </p>

<p>Every year, some kids who make the initial cut decide not to bother with the application because they are sick of writing essays and there is no money involved. S decided to do it largely because it would mean that he could honor his teacher by taking her to DC with him if he won.</p>

<p>Yes, Hunt and Consolation are correct. Son sent the candidacy information on an update letter (was mostly updating on results from debate, and a job he had started that spring). </p>

<p>My memory was that the point of the update letter is just to show continued interest in the school, not so much to dazzle with fresh exploits.</p>

<p>My D was a semi- finalist last year and yes,the essays were a lot of work.
You can follow the program press releases on facebook</p>

<p><a href=“https://www.facebook.com/pages/US-Presidential-Scholars-Program/131588424007[/url]”>https://www.facebook.com/pages/US-Presidential-Scholars-Program/131588424007&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Our son was a Presidential Scholar and yes, it was a LOT of essays in the application as a previous poster noted. Our family all went to the National Recognition Week (NRW in lingo of this program) in DC and it was our feeling that the White House, which instituted this program under President Lyndon Johnson’s administration, has become noticeably uninvolved with this program. In previous years, the POTUS awarded the medals to the young men and women who have achieved this high honor (or at least personally addressed the awardee class as a whole, if not personally passing out the medals). For our son’s awardee class, the POTUS was a no-show. Granted, the POTUS is an extremely busy person, but if the award is called “US Presidential Scholar”; the POTUS should be at least visible sometime during the NRW. This award probably should be re-cast as the “US Dept. of Education Award” at this point to match the award’s point of reference.</p>

<p>Furthermore, while this may seem to be a prestigious award, no scholarship comes from this. This award does not help college admissions since the selection of the finalists comes AFTER college admission acceptances (note: While the finalists selection occurs after college decision day, a kid can let the colleges know that they made the previous 2 cuts which might help with admissions. The program is a 3-cut application process: #1st cut - kid is notified by Dept. of Education that they are in the ~3000 selection pool and can apply to be a finalist based on SAT scores of kids within his/her state, #2nd cut - 580 semi-finalists selected from the pool, #3rd cut - 141 finalists selected from the 580). So in essence, while there’s a nice medal for the finalist and a something that looks impressive to put on the CV, it doesn’t change much of the kid’s life.</p>

<p>Best wishes to your D’s chances on becoming a US Presidential Scholar.</p>