Prestige

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<p>I’m not fully sure you comprehend what I’m saying with a message received stamp of approval GT or plan on continuing to insult me here on cc. You keep mentioning my age but deny my life experiences, put down my lifestyle, then deny the perks that come with it. I deplore lazy people just as much as over ambitious people and even though not wealthy or famous myself, grew up around rich and famous nearly half my life. </p>

<p>I also made you a list of the Australian schools that had what something I want taking in consideration first the program then the surrounding area. My top 5ish were U of Melbourne (#2) and take a 5 year joint BS/MS there. I decided that 5 years was too long a commitment for me now and would get burnt on it. Just like UCLA, the only thing I would go to U of Sydney (ranked #3) as an alternative would be for film stuff, and in many ways has even more appeal to me over UCLA for grad school and would rather live in Sydney over San Francisco and LA. </p>

<pre><code> For undergrad I am actually more interested in attending Macquarie University ranked 8-9 or University of Adelaide, its competitor between 8-9. I also like a few Western Australia colleges like Curtin University of Technology 14-17 and Edith Cowan, I think 14-17 or just living closer to Perth but too many sharks! I really like Charles Stuart? which to me is a great school even though lower in prestige. It’s because Wagga Wagga is way out in the outback so doesn’t attract people as many people who’s work is typically in big cities. All the rest of the prestigious top 20+ Aussie schools are all good and would attend but they just don’t have what I want. I’ve already lived in NYC (lot of upstate too) Boston((and all around NE), Philly, DC, Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, New Orleans for up and down the east coast plus Chicago and Royal Oak, mi. Also lived in Seattle, Portland, LA, and SF + bay area and it took me a hell o long time to visit the entire west coast and much of western united states too and just close to moving on. I’ve considered just ditching California and going to a school in a number of states, but there are just an increasing amount of economic, educational and technological forces pressing on me enough to become an international student as the more rational choice. Also do I want to surf water or snow more? hmm a very perplexing part of the equation that trumps prestige or partying as a priority if I’m going to be in one place 2 -4 years. I could handle living in the mts if close to surf or by the beach if at least within reach to the mountains but too far tears me apart. I’d rather go to a lesser prestigious school if had both these perks or at least one has to be awesome. with that in mind I did research and created a pro and con analysis so could narrow down my final colleges choices to top 5 in california, top 10 in the US, extended to top 20 if counting international.
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<p>Some of my other fave schools I’d seriously attend are University of Otago on the south island in Dunedin, New Zealand for undergrad then Victora U on the southern tip of the north island in beautiful but windy Wellington. There are tons nationally and internationally that are just as respected around the world in terms of prestige. California is cool but there is also a big world outside of California which people who grew up here yet never been anywhere else seem to not always get. There are a lot of perks for an American to considering attending college overseas or at least attend for 6 months to a year. UCSB is just where the international program is located with many partnerships to Australian and Canadian universities with the program and class choice I want. I’m very specific what program classes I want to take junior and senior year so want every prereq done and not interfering with that so can get out and pay it back in TWO years.</p>

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<p>o. m. g. this thread is still going on?? lolzz. Can we let this pointless thread die already?? DIEEEE!! [YouTube</a> - Justin Bieber dies on South Park (720p)](<a href=“- YouTube”>- YouTube)</p>

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<p>Rankings of international universities from a website that includes 12,000 universities!!! This is only one site and ranking methodology! Whether they are considered prestigious, i guess its who you talk too on a school basis which would differ from on a department/major or undergrad/grad basis.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.webometrics.info/index.html[/url]”>http://www.webometrics.info/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>#1 is Harvard off course, not interested
#2 MIT, if choose to do a life of science and technology, fer sure, even do their open campus
#3 Stanford, thought about it. I’d like to live and work on Stanford but they pay crap. The only good thing about it is a good rate on quarters, a yearly bit of kickback towards classes, and working in teams with smart people doing cool stuff. Plus its a nice campus.</p>

<h1>4 Berkeley, considered it for undergrad but they got more what I want for grad. Working there can be cool if you are in the right position that fits you and like or it becomes political and frustrating.</h1>

<h1>5 Cornell, considered it for undergrad for alternative majors outside my direct personal interests but are still awesome. I know and love the area, except in wintertime…brrrrrr!!!</h1>

<h1>6 U of Mich Ann Arbor, another campus I’ve been on and one of my faves. Don’t have what I want for undergrad but is in the top 10 grad schools I would attend.</h1>

<h1>7 U of Minnesota. Great town, school and undergrad and grad program in my science field that I hold nothing against but just didn’t make my top 20.</h1>

<h1>8 U of Washington Great location and school, better grad than undergrad for my interests. I really wanted it to be in my top 20 faves but didn’t make it, too big and frustrating for my tastes.</h1>

<h1>9 U of Wisconsin Madison -same reason as #7</h1>

<h1>10 U of Texas, Austin - blips on the map every so often on my undergrad top 20 list. Great school, great nightlife, great music scene, BUT warmer weather and job market give UT a slight edge over my top 10 choice of grad schools in my field over U Mich.</h1>

<h1>11 UPenn - great school and location but they don’t have what i want so not interested</h1>

<p>Same with 12,13,14.</p>

<h1>15 U of Illinois Urbana - Champlain is in my top 10 choice for grad school not undergrad. Their grad program in my field competes with but ultimately beats UCLA which is #16. LA as my choice for grad would prolly win since has a beach I can surf and mountains to ski not that far away with better weather and the entertainment industry.</h1>

<h1>20 UNC Another that competes with UCLA for grad school in my field i stay open with.</h1>

<h1>24 Rutgers - same thing as UNC</h1>

<h1>25 University of Indiana - same issue so tied with both UNC and Rutgers for grad school</h1>

<h1>32 UCSD -doesn’t have what i want in my direct interests, would consider as an alternative if went a different direction since SD has a decent job market in my field.</h1>

<h1>38 UBC - I like there undergrad and grad school and their Vancouver and Kelowna campuses. In my top 5 overall choices of colleges to attend throughout the world. Although the skiing, sailing and snowboarding is awesome, kinda blows for surfing.</h1>

<h1>44 USC - makes my top 20 choices for undergrad more than grad so keeping open too</h1>

<h1>46 UCD - better than people make it out to be because is in Davis and late bloomer. Everything about it including funding, prestige and world reputation has risen dramatically over the past 10 20 years. Not near the beach but lots of really cute girls and awesome programs if find one that fits. A top 10 choice for undergrad science in my field.</h1>

<h1>47 UCI - nah, doesn’t really have what i want and think Davis today is a cooler town.</h1>

<h1>49 U Colorado, as a Californian resident I’d receive in state tuition with possible scholarship which keeps in top 20 undergrad alternative choices and just go skiing.</h1>

<h1>52 U of Edinburgh - one of my top 20 fave international schools in my science field</h1>

<h1>57 UCSB - top 5 for undergrad in Cali, the US, and international choice categories, highly respected in my field and as a research institution. Beautiful beaches and females, great surf, mts not too far off, and an overall fun town.</h1>

<h1>71 BU - in my TOP 20 UNDERGRAD (not grad) choices, just not in my direct field, and in many cases, good safety alternatives. Program and opportunities plus weather and climate and hottie fun factor dominate throughout this chunk of choices. Top 100 still too.</h1>

<h1>81 McGill - ditto</h1>

<h1>82 U of Oregon - ditto</h1>

<h1>84 UC Santa Cruz - ditto</h1>

<h1>88 Louisiana State - ditto</h1>

<h1>91 Drexel -ditto plus has my major!</h1>

<h1>92 U of New Mexico - ditto plus low debt!</h1>

<h1>97 U of Quebec Montreal - ditto if get better at French!</h1>

<p>All the others in the top 100 are all great just didn’t make list</p>

<h1>102 - University of Queensland - top 5 in international choices for undergrad</h1>

<h1>103 Monash University - top 10 for international choice, top 20ish overall</h1>

<h1>132 - Tufts - one of my top 10 US undergrad choices, top 20 internationally though</h1>

<h1>135 - U of Melbourne -was top 5 but ended up dropping off my top 10 or 20</h1>

<h1>139 - U of Sydney - turned into top 20 for grad and undergrad, city, surf, chicks, jobs</h1>

<h1>153 U of NSWales- top 20 for undergrad international choice but not top 20 overall</h1>

<h1>155 U of Victoria - ditto</h1>

<h1>158 - SYracuse - ditto</h1>

<h1>161 - RIT - top 10 undergrad choice for science and technology, top 20 overall due to the cold weather and winds brrrrr!!!</h1>

<h1>171 - UCR - didn’t make top 20 but actually good school, just a different direction for me</h1>

<h1>207 SDSU - top 20 choice nationally and internationally for undergrad, not grad</h1>

<h1>248 U of Adelaide - top 10 foreign undergrad choice, top 20 choice overall</h1>

<h1>299 SFSU -in the top ten for undergrad cali schools, didn’t make top 20 internationally though</h1>

<h1>319 Calpoly - top 5 cali choice, top 10 national, top 20 international undergrad choice</h1>

<h1>320 CSUN - top 10 cali choice, top 20 national, drops off top 20 for international choice</h1>

<h1>338 UNC - top 10 for grad, top 20 for US undergrad, drops off top 20 international</h1>

<h1>370 Macquarie University - top 10 in international undergrad choice, top 20 total</h1>

<h1>433 CSU CHico, top 5 cali choice, top 10 national, top 20 international for UNDERGRAD</h1>

<h1>459 Western Washington U - barely makes top 20 undergrad national choice, drops off top 20 with international colleges of choice</h1>

<h1>463 - University of Strathcylde Glasgow -top 10 in international choices, top 20 overall</h1>

<p>ok, im cutting off at the 500 mark from this sites prestige perceptions and methodology of all the schools i am interested in so broken down in my own tier 1, 2 and 3 from their choices. I still love LAC’s, Oregon State - Bend and even Evergreen State which are in my top 10 US, top 20 international for undergrad</p>

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<p>@goingmeta
Seriously. How can you see this, and not know that there is obviously something wrong with this man.</p>

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<p>According to the most recent USNews and World Report 'Worlds Best Universities top 400" posted September 21’st of 2010 including California UC’s competing on a world level. This is one of the more well known ranking schemes that more gear towards grad school. There still is a healthy debate on how well grad school rankings attribute to the prestige of their undergrad counterparts. Among the different school structures whether public university, priv, ivy, tech, state, community colleges or religious there tends to be different circuit publications with different ranking methods and competing networks of campus buzz. </p>

<p>U of Edinburgh was 22, Cal was 28, and UCLA @ 35 just beat U of Sydney @ 37 and U of Melbourne @ 38 then Brown @ 39.</p>

<p>U of Queensland came in @ 43 then U of British Columbia @ 44 Copenhagen @ 45 and U of NSW @ 46 and U of Wisconsin Madison @ 48 which are all in the TOP 50 and schools I could get into when finish here in California and continue to do well. </p>

<p>U of Washington made 55th place, @56 was U of Amsterdam the U of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, all still Awesome schools. Monash U @61 came in ahead of U of Illinois Urbana-Champaign @ 63, BU @ 64, UCSD @65, UT Austin @67, U of Auckland @68. Out of 400 and even for top 100 this I think is a pretty healthy respectable prestige reputation. U of Minnesota made 96th in the top 100 in the world and U of Adelaide just missed the 100 @103. U of Maryland was next @ 104 which I should keep open for grad school and have one of the best programs plus a healthy government job market considering its location and proximity. Not far off were great SE schools Georgia Tech @ 106 and Emory @ 107. </p>

<p>The school I’d go to UCD as in University College Dublin in Ireland not UC Davis ranked in @114 beating even Rice @115 and UCSB @ 116 and University of Aberdeen @117, all awesome schools in my opinion in the same range rank that I don’t think is too shabby still. </p>

<p>Another college I’d seriously attend in the not even far off range from that was U of Otago @135 the U of Montreal @ 136. UC Irvine came in @ 146 for the between the top 100 - 150 range of cool English Speaking schools in the world including where California college rankings fall into world rankings. </p>

<p>Tufts was the first that stuck out from 150 onwards then recognized U of Arizona @ 159 and a good alternative for Californians who may consider close out of state schools due to the economy of something different. Another good choice in that ranking range is U of Colorado Boulder @169 if you like mountains skiing and cold weather. Some Californians don’t adjust to the cold as well as most other people so in the top 200 there is U of Florida gain the 196th postion. </p>

<p>Rutgers in jeeerseeey spotted in @216 just ahead of Macquarie @220 and Victoria U of Wellington not Aussie, which is a good school too but these are some of my faves and still hold enough prestige for me since like the locations, colleges, and programs. The same thing with the other U of Victoria in British Columbia, confused yet!@??!?!</p>

<p>Flinders is a cool Aussie school too that made 251 then U of Illinois Chicago @ 252, both great schools but not for what I want. I would make great money if decided to go to Aussie doing techy stuff at the U of Technology Sydney @ 257 , U of Wollogong @ 267 and Curtin Institute of Technology over many colleges in the US but not Canada. I’d still rather settle down under than settle in the great white north but the opposite is true for living just for a while when ready to leave California. </p>

<p>Even other cool schools in location I like Brandeis @ 281, U of Southern Australia @284, and UC Santa Cruz @284 and UC Riverside @285 and Queensland Tech @ 289 are still considered within the top 300 in the world, which suits me fine if ever decided to attend any of them by chance but doubt it for what I want. </p>

<p>I admit I really like Griffith University in Australia @323, Dublin City U @ 330 and even Colorado State and U of Conn @ 338 which are good too I think and academically pretty damn solid. U of Georgia is 349, U of Kentucky 350, and U of Alabama 351 and Washington State U @ 352. BC I think should have gotten higher than 359th and Dublin Tech better than 395th but oh well, least it made top 400 are only one method of measuring prestige. I’d rather just put out the numbers instead of arguing ranking schemes which are more for grad first then undergrad unless you know what you are looking for.</p>

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<p>In the webworld, the site ULink compiled there own top 100: </p>

<p>There opinion of perceived prestige is debatable but still like it and is just another perspective. Stanford beat MIT which beat Berkeley which just beat Caltech for top 10 in the world. That is the hottest debate but another good ranking range fiery debate is spots 10-20 where UCSD > UCLA > Cornell > Upenn > UMich. </p>

<p>U of Colorado beat UCSB which went head to head with UBC but still beat UTAustin which beat UCDavis which outranked UCIrvine for the UC rank obsessed.</p>

<p>Those did beat USC following Rutgers for within the top 50 halfpoint. If you took these rankings and averaged them out with others, you could create some statistical prestige counter. Rank places compete and can change every year.</p>

<p>1 Harvard University USA
2 University of Oxford UK
3 University of Cambridge UK
4 Stanford University USA
5 Massachusetts Institute of Technology USA
6 University of California, Berkeley USA
7 California Institute of Technology USA
8 Princeton University USA
9 Yale University USA
10 University of Chicago USA
11 Columbia University USA
12 University of California, San Diego USA
13 Cornell University USA
14 University of California, Los Angeles USA
15 University Pennsylvania USA
16 University of Wisconsin, Madison USA
17 University of Washington, Seattle USA
18 Tokyo University Japan
19 University of California, San Francisco USA
20 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor USA
21 Kyoto University Japan
22 Imperial College London UK
23 Johns Hopkins University USA
24 University of Toronto Canada
25 University College London UK
26 University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign USA
27 Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, Zurich Switzerland
28 Washington University, St. Louis USA
29 New York University USA
30 Duke University USA
31 University of Minnesota, Twin Cities USA
32 Northwestern University USA
33 Rockefeller University USA
34 University of Colorado, Boulder USA
35 University of California, Santa Barbara USA
36 University of British Columbia Canada
37 University of Maryland, College Park USA
38 Utrecht University Netherlands
39 University of Texas, Austin USA
40 University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center USA
41 Pennsylvania State University, University Park USA
42 University of California, Davis USA
43 Vanderbilt University USA
44 University of California, Irvine USA
45 University of Paris 06 France
46 University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh USA
47 University of Southern California USA
48 Rutgers State University, New Brunswick USA
49 University of Manchester UK
50 Karolinska Institute, Stockholm Sweden
51 University of Munich Germany
52 Technical University of Munich Germany
53 University of Florida USA
54 University of Edinburgh UK
55 Australian National University Australia
56 Carnegie Mellon University USA
57 University of Copenhagen Denmark
58 University of Zurich Switzerland
59 Hebrew University, Jerusalem Israel
60 Osaka University Japan
61 McGill University Canada
62 University of Bristol UK
63 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill USA
64 Uppsala University Sweden
65 Ohio State University, Columbus USA
66 University of Paris 11 France
67 University of Sheffield UK
68 University of Heidelberg Germany
69 University of Oslo Norway
70 Case Western Reserve University USA
71 Moscow State University Russia
72 University of Leiden Netherlands
73 Purdue University, West Lafayette USA
74 University of Helsinki Finland
75 University of Rochester USA
76 University of Melbourne Australia
77 Tohoku University Japan
78 University of Nottingham UK
79 University of Arizona USA
80 Michigan State University USA
81 King’s College London UK
82 Boston University USA
83 University of Basel Switzerland
84 Stockholm University Sweden
85 Brown University USA
86 University of Goettingen Germany
87 Rice University USA
88 Texas A&M University, College Station USA
89 Tokyo Institute of Technology Japan
90 University of Birmingham UK
91 University of Utah USA
92 University of Freiburg Germany
93 McMaster University Canada
94 Nagoya University Japan
95 University of Iowa USA
96 University of Strasbourg 1 France
97 Ecole Normale Super Paris France
98 Indiana University, Bloomington USA
99 Arizona State University, Tempe USA
100 University of Rome La Sapienza Italy</p>

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<p>USNews compiles different lists since it keeps the prestige obsessed and parents coming back. Since 1983, millions have enjoyed and look forward to reading the current USN college rankings. The compilation is quite popular and highly anticipated not unlike Sport Illustrated top seller of the year, its Swimsuit Calendar edition. </p>

<pre><code> In fact, the similarities between the two may not even be far off in how ultimately each pick was chosen and the demographic being served. I take each of these perceived prestige rankings with a grain of salt and a shot of tequila. It reminds me of hanging out with a bunch of drunk college students at a frat party before a game discussing which college has the most bootylicous cheerleaders and deciding where to go based upon that.

For top contenders of the three highly cherished California Universities, this year Cal came in @ 22 just landing ahead of USC @ 23 two removed from UCLA @ 25.
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<p>Amongst many of the dearly loved US colleges in the 30’s, UCSD landed in the middle @ 35 with UC Davis now tying with UCSB @ 39.</p>

<p>Maybe your tastes aren’t with the fine wine 20’s or craft brew 30’s colleges and rather be drinking 40’s inside the dorms with schoolmates. In that case if you live on the west coast you could go to UCI or UWash both tied in @ 41. If you like pubs and plan to go out drinking more than staying inside in boring Irvine or rainy Seattle you may enjoy UT-Austin or UWis-Mad @45.</p>

<p>With the proliferation of better pot, maybe frat parties and drunk passed out college kids aren’t your thing. In that case there were two other California universities to hit the top 100. One was pot friendly UCSC @72 smoking UCR @ 94 this year, which although a good school is boring enough that you may need to bring a large stash with you.</p>

<p>If you are one to mix a little of everything the weekend before a big exam the other California college to consider in National Rankings is SDSU @183. Everything above around rank 191 is just labeled Tier 2 since they may have been too hungover to turn their paperwork in on time.</p>

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<p>According to the website myplan.com, California schools in terms of National prestige***</p>

<p>THese students and numbers are from an older generation and things change</p>

<h1>2 Stanford</h1>

<h1>6 Cal</h1>

<h1>17 Caltech</h1>

<h1>41 UCLA</h1>

<h1>55 CalPoly</h1>

<h1>56 Ponoma</h1>

<h1>54 Harvey Mudd</h1>

<h1>69 Claremont McKenna</h1>

<h1>74 UCSD</h1>

<h1>79 UCD</h1>

<h1>86 UCSB</h1>

<h1>95 Pepperdine</h1>

<h1>154 UCI</h1>

<h1>163 Loyola Marymount</h1>

<h1>172 CSULB</h1>

<h1>229 Santa Clara</h1>

<h1>256 Calpoly Pomona</h1>

<h1>260 CSULA</h1>

<h1>282 USF</h1>

<h1>288 SDSU</h1>

<h1>297 UCR</h1>

<h1>307 CSUF</h1>

<h1>309 CSUN</h1>

<h1>331 Sonoma State</h1>

<h1>350 UCSC</h1>

<h1>360 SFSU</h1>

<h1>384 Sac State</h1>

<h1>414 Chico State</h1>

<h1>475 CSUSB</h1>

<h1>509 Fresno State</h1>

<h1>525 CSU Bakersfield</h1>

<h1>563 CSUMB</h1>

<h1>565 CSUSM</h1>

<h1>571 Hayward State</h1>

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<p>kmazza, Why are you posting this? It causes the thread to bump up. Please just let it die.</p>

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<p>@collegeisforlosers</p>

<p>Prepare for another long post.</p>

<p>sage this thread</p>

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<p>but then I would miss out on loserdudes amusing contradictions, and what fun would that be?!?</p>

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<p>@kmazza</p>

<p>You have too much time on your hands dude…</p>

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<p>lol
10 char</p>

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<p>Thank you Tony (from LA) for illustrating my point. This is in co-relation to my prior post. Enjoy.</p>

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<p>Hey kmazza
My English professor’s daugther is a freshman at Tuft’s. She was accepted at UCLA and Berkeley but rejected from Havard, which was her dream school. I got the chance to meet her and she seemed like a really sweet girl. However, something always bugged me about her single mother having to take out a second mortgage and teach double at two different campuses just so she could go there. I would never do anything like that to my mom, and I don’t understand why anyone would. It’s just undergraduate school right?</p>

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<p>Hey Heather,
I find your story fascinating and wish you the best of luck in your endeavors. To answer your question, some parents look at their kids education as a mutual short-long term investment. Those parents that place a high value on education do it both for their child as much as for themselves. I agree that I am not sure if I or some others would have gone to such an extent just for undergrad education no. Tuft’s is a great school overall and Medford is a fairly expensive place to live. It’s not too far from Arlington, Lexington, Winchester, Burlington, Slumerville, Cambridge or Malden which are all pricey but driving can be crazy unless one is use to a high population density (one of the biggest!) that is not laid out on a grid. That said, many tend to live in dorms if don’t know the locals or will drive from any of the towns mentioned, sometimes even further!</p>

<p>The majority of Northeastern schools tend either to be 2 year vocational, a few state school, dozen of LAC’s and the Ivies. None of them are cheap though and as I mentioned, higher education is highly valued in the NE. Hopefully she will see the sacrifices her mom made for her and be grateful enough to pay her respects in thanks or gratuity someday.</p>

<p>for undergrad education: Tufts Art Department > UCLA’s Art Department</p>

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<p>lmao… ohhhhh mercy.</p>

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<p>“Last edited by Chedva; 11-15-2010 at 11:22 AM. Reason: too much of copyrighted article quoted”
I was wondering where those long post went.
LMAO nice one kmazza!</p>