<p>good point there yo. If you try to transfer from Yale to Stanford or something like that because of a better academical environment thats a worthless reason. I want to transfer from UVA to Northwestern because of the film program Northwestern offers and thats seems like a good enough reason.</p>
<p>i always thought that a 2.8 a stamford was about as difficult to get as a 4.0 from a cc</p>
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<p>doesn't play out like that however</p>
<p>"So let's say that a 4.0 CC is applying to transfer to Princeton, I wouldn't see his app as impressive as maybe a 3.7 from stanford. I would hope princeton would view it the same way"</p>
<p>Actually, Princeton would view both applicants in the same light because Princeton doesn't accept transfers.</p>
<p>Anyway, it's ridiculous to assume that all community colleges are the same. Trust me, they are not. </p>
<p>"Getting a 4.0 at community college is not considered an achievement, it's considered meeting basic expectations" </p>
<p>This is a joke statement based on no factual information whatsoever. Caillebotte should be ashamed of his/her elitism.</p>
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also, I think the thing is with alot of people applying to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, etc from really good schools I would imagine a very large majority of them had already applied to those schools but just got rejected and thus went to the lesser but still good nonetheless schools. I've gotten the impression, and this may be false, that once harvard, yale, princeton reject you applying for a transfer there won't do much good. They look more for those unique applicants that stand out, which those reapplying probly don't but CC people would.
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<p>A lot of generalities here, but nothing grounded in any hard information. While S appears to look favorably at CC and non-traditional students who want to transfer (information provided by Bourne, a successful S transfer and past poster on this forum), there is no indication whatsoever that would lead one to the conclusion that Y does (I'm not considering H & P since they are moot when it comes to transfers). See my post #15 in this thread, which comes from my D, a soph transfer to Y this fall:</p>
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1. There is a large representation from top public universities.
2. Those from privates range from relatively obscure colleges to military academies to top ranked universities.
3. There are more jr transfers than soph transfers.
4. Most of the soph transfers were competitive applicants to Y as fr. By "competitive applicants" I mean that they were accepted, waitlisted or accepted to an equivalent level school.
5. Fewer of the jrs would have been competitive applicants to Y as fr.
6. There were NO CC transfers (she knows one from the year before, but there were none in the fall 2008 group).
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<p>I have seen a post by MagiTF (another Y transfer) that says he knows of one CC transfer this year, so that last sentence may be off by 1 acceptance, still not much of a trend.</p>
<p>Like many of you, I have my own irrational theories about what colleges want and look for concerning transfer applicants. </p>
<p>To get information that can be considered somewhat factual in origin, I'd ask successful past transfers about the collegiate dynamics of their respective classes.</p>
<p>Much of this is conjecture and the ethics of presenting such information as empirically valid can be debated in a number of ways.</p>
<p>Many CC students are working full-time, many are parents, and increasingly, many are returning veterans. I am in the honors curriculum at my CC and many of my fellow students have a significant amount of life experience under their belts to go along with their impressive minds. This is precisely why a lot of schools choose CC students as transfers.</p>
<p>Let's not make too many categorical statements about CC students.</p>
<p>I found the post by MagiTF:</p>
<p>He states:</p>
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Out of all my transfer peers (there were about 23 of us if I recall), only ONE was from a community college. There were 3 from UC Berkeley, a few from other Ivies, and quite a few top-tier privates and public schools.
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<p>Hey, there are pretty rigorous courses at CC, if you know where to look. I’ve had teachers at CCs who graduated from UChicago and Harvard, and only give 2-3 As per class. Some teachers refuse to give As altogether.</p>
<p>But in fairness, entomom, you also almost certainly have nowhere near the same number of students applying from community colleges. Most either don’t think they have a shot, have terrible transfer advising, or are simply unaware of transfer opportunities at elite institutions, so they aren’t as represented in transfer applicant pools. And also, most community college applicants to Yale would probably be going through the Eli Whitney program (which itself is extremely competitive), not the traditional undergraduate admissions.</p>
<p>For example: I can say that I was one of four students in my transfer group of about 28 to be accepted to Mount Holyoke, so it doesn’t look very high at all, especially when you consider that most of the other transfers came from elite liberal arts colleges. But if you counted in the Frances Perkins non-traditional students, who also transferred in but get counted separately in some stats, virtually all of them came from community colleges, and there are something like 150 students in that program. So when you’re talking about community college transfer admissions, it’s really crucial to keep in mind the age and background of the applicants, because the majority of them, especially if they’ve been working and filing taxes independently, are going to be considered non-traditional and won’t be well reflected in the stats or anecdotes.</p>
<p>I was told by an nyu admissions officer that your previous school is extremely important, which makes a lot of sense. he even said that sometimes a community college gpa is cut in half when comparing it to a gpa from a top 20 school. </p>
<p>Let’s say someone wasted their four years of high school doing nothing and could only get into a community college. And another candidate worked very hard for all four years and got into a prestigious university…obviously the one that goes to the better college should have the upper hand (unless of course it was a money issue).</p>