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<p>Is he on this list?</p>
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Yes Byerly, he is on the list.</p>
<p>Ryan Pritchard, eh? 5' 11" 215 from Novi.</p>
<p>Good athlete, but a little small for a lineman, even in the Ivies. Either he bulks up, or he'll have to be a linebacker. In the middle in this picture:</p>
<p>That's not creepy at all...no, of course not. <em>backs away slowly</em></p>
<p>Byerly: Why do you bring this (NEWSFLASH! Harvard Won a Record-Tying 14 Ivy Titles This Year!! ) up on every board to bash Princeton athletics? Key word, Record-Tying...who are they tied with? </p>
<p>Princeton.</p>
<p>Ouch, that's a burn. </p>
<p>Harvard had a good year in athletics. so what? It's certainly a step up for many of their programs.</p>
<p>Well now, I do believe I mentioned Harvard's dominance of Ivy athletics this year only <em>after</em> another poster attempted to imply the opposite, by citing the misleading "Director's Cup" stats. That's all. Challenge and response.</p>
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Ryan Pritchard, eh? 5' 11" 215 from Novi.</p>
<p>Good athlete, but a little small for a lineman, even in the Ivies. Either he bulks up, or he'll have to be a linebacker. In the middle in this picture:</p>
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Wow Byerly wow, how the...I'm not even going to ask. He's all muscle though!!!</p>
<p>As a shot-putter, I'm sure he is.</p>
<p>"Well now, I do believe I mentioned Harvard's dominance of Ivy athletics this year only <em>after</em> another poster attempted to imply the opposite, by citing the misleading "Director's Cup" stats. That's all. Challenge and response."</p>
<p>"Challenge and response" certainly doesn't describe your argumentative style, Byerly. Ignoring valid arguments certainly doesn't constitute a "response." </p>
<p>The Director's Cup, certainly, isn't misleading. It highly values national rather than inter-conference dominance. The most admirable sports programs at the Ivy League, like Princeton water polo and women's soccer, can compete with scholarship schools like, say, Stanford (although they of course, like most other teams fielded, end up losing to the Cardinal most of the time). 14 meaningless Ivy League championships can't make up for no national or championship presence.</p>
<p>It would be like Stanford beating on programs like UCSB and UCD every year and winning a lot of conference championships. It means little. Same for Harvard beating on Columbia and Brown.</p>
<p>In addition to gaining ZERO points in the quirky "Director's Cup" standing for the 10-0 football season (undefeated in the #1 Ivy sport, and widely ranked #1 in Division 1AA) Harvard also had TWO (count 'em ... <em>2</em>) national titles - in rowing and sailing.</p>
<p>How many "Director's Cup" points did these national championships earn the Crimson?? ZERO.</p>
<p>Why? Because the NCAA is not the sanctioning organization in those sports, so it pretends they don't exist.</p>
<p>Rowing and sailing...I see. Popular sports, both of them. SOOOO many schools compete in them, I'm sure.</p>
<p>...Rowing's actually HUGE, especially out East. Don't knock rowing.</p>
<p>(But sailing... psh.)</p>
<p>I LOVE FOOTBALL.... I guess princeton is not the place for me if there's nno football spirit</p>
<p>none of the ivies - certainly not columbia - is the place for you, then, if "football spirit" is really your object.</p>
<p>Rowing...another supposed weakness of Princeton? Men's Heavyweight and Women's Open were the top ranked squads nationally for much of the season. Sure, the Women's faltered in the end and the Men's did too (lost to Harvard twice by a small margin) but both crews were ranked among the top 5 at the end of a season, one that wasn't a very good one for Princeton. Looks like Princeton really can't hold up to Harvard in that respect...</p>
<p>We here in the real D1 care not about rowing or sailing. Basketball is where it matters. Rowing is still better than sailing, or better yet, yachting as they might call it over in Cambridge.</p>
<p>Women's Open lost to Cal at the NCAA Championships, not Harvard.</p>
<p>Men's Heavy lost to Harvard, I never said Women's did.</p>
<p>Gotcha. I definitely read your parenthesis as applying to both ;)</p>