Princeton Parents, Class of 2020 - Questions/Words of Wisdom

Thank you @NJMom97 !!

@fretfulmother agree, it’s appalling.

Thank you, @GnocchiB !!

Here is what I think: we want open discussions on a University campus, in newspapers, and in this country. However - why is P not making some kind of “fighting speech with more speech” statement about how this is not the spirit of productive open debate that represents the community?

I understand that the newspaper and the administration can’t chase comments on every little article, but I have brought this to the attention of several people now. AND this is an article of what I might consider “general interest” so that not just a tiny corner of the web-verse will be reading it.

@fretfulmother that exact debate has been going on all year – google the the Princeton Open Campus Coalition and the Black Justice League and how Yik Yak has been part of the controversy. Also, the Daily Princetonian (as well as the Princeton Alumni Weekly) are independent publications so it may be that they have not sent a reporter to ask the administration for a statement (perhaps because the article was published during exam period)?

I agree it’s awful to let such a horrible comment stay there.

The Daily Princetonian allows anyone who wants to to post comments. Obviously, the hateful comments that you have pointed out are awful (but not too dissimilar from many comments found on the web and on FB unfortunately). However, they are most likely not comments of anyone actually associated with Princeton. The Daily Princetonian engaged in a review of its comment policy in 2012 and frankly, I think made a mistake in making few changes. Here’s an article about the review of the policy https://paw.princeton.edu/node/58746

I think it might be time for another review.

@midatlmom - thank you! I read the article you linked. I have to say, I have limited patience for a fear expressed that if comments had to be associated with a name, then employers might see what people think (!?) - since when do people not stand behind reasoned opinions and take responsibility? I agree with the past president who said that the Honor Code supports reasoned dialogue without anonymity. And it seems kind of sophomoric that the argument in favor of allowing off-topic/offensive comments is that “they are amusing”. Hey, if people will say offensive things even without anonymity, go for it and take responsibility.

I read this morning at the gym (in Marie Claire ok so laugh at me :slight_smile: ) - there is a thing now in Brazil (where hate speech is a crime) where hateful anonymous internet comments are being enlarged on billboards to raise awareness.

update: sometime between 4pm Eastern and now, all comments have been removed from the article.

^Very good. Thank you, @fretfulmother, for letting us know.

Parent here with questions: is there a way to officially “opt in” to be sent our student’s grades? I know she’ll share with us, but I’m old fashioned and like to receive copies from the school for my file.

In a similar vein, do any parents of current students have experience with having their child sign the authorizations for release of medical/psychological records? I’m more interested in having my D let me speak with a treating physician, should an accident or illness occur than having actual copies of medical records.

From the form I could find on the UHS portal, it looks like the one for medical records has a 90-day period of validity and the one for psychological services is 1 year. Again, I don’t need/want the records as much as want to have my D give permission for a physician to speak with me in case of something unexpected.

Any info would be much appreciated!

@GnocchiB I don’t think there is a way to see your child’s grades without logging into the system as your child, using her NetID and password, which a student should not share. My daughter told me her fall semester grades as she received them. In the spring, she sent me a screen shot of her grades in TigerHub when they were all available, so I got to view them as she did (and I did save them). You could ask your daughter to have her transcript sent to you, perhaps at the end of each school year. It is sent electronically without a fee unless it is a rush order. This gives me an idea, as it is really nice to look back years later and see what courses you took in college. (I recently found two transcripts of mine from Barnard, but only from freshman and sophomore years. I had forgotten that I had stepped outside my comfort zone and taken a Political Science course!)

When the instructions come for paying the family contribution for the tuition, etc., you will see that your child has to authorize you to have access to TigerPay- essentially the student has to give the parent permission to view and pay the bill!

@GnocchiB I also was concerned about being allowed to speak to a treating physician if my daughter became ill and needed medical treatment. Last summer, DH, DD, and I went to an attorney who prepared two documents for us: “Advanced Directives for Health Care/Living Will and Designation for Health Care Representative” and “Durable Power of Attorney”. I was prompted by a poster on CC who detailed what his family went through when his daughter in college was disabled in an accident- they struggled to get information and authorize care for her when she could not speak for herself. Additionally, there has been serious illness in our family, including in our three living parents, necessitating my husband or me to have power of attorney for each of them and take over their care and finances. Regarding the Advance Directives/Living Will, our daughter did have to declare her wishes for end of life care, but this did not bother her. My plan is to fax a copy of these documents if necessary, certainly in the event of serious illness, in order to be able to speak to a treating physician.

The attorney did explain to our daughter that the Durable Power of Attorney can be revoked by her at any time, and that of course she has the option of changing her Advanced Directives for Health Care/Living Will and Designation of Health Care Representative in the future. She seemed relieved to know her parents will step in as needed. I think our newly adult children want to be grown up, but maybe not all at once. :wink: