Holy Moly Batman! You don’t want to see how the sausage (holistic admissions) gets made…ain’t nobody going to be happy about it…
Did they demand an end to black-on-black violence?
Networking benefits that’s only the half of it.
Lots of unintended consequences in store for this doltish movement.
This kind of predisposition is exactly what some would look out for to justify under the radar hiring practices. I could easily see some employers wanting to avoid those who be a risk for “trigger happy” EEOC lawsuits once they graduate.
Its a shame. I blame the parents again.
Probably the most common reason stated for affinity housing (by race) is that it makes URM students feel more comfortable and supported. Especially where they are a very small minority (say less than 10% or 5%).
However, it is counter to the efforts to add diversity to a campus, if you start limited interactions between the races. It’s one thing to sit in class with another students, it’s a whole another thing to live with them in a residence hall.
@JustOneDad I don’t think they demanded an end to white-on-white violence either, which is of course a huge problem in the white community, probably due to poor parenting and their violent culture, which will likely never end. But that’s as tangential as your question.
I don’t see them demanding an end to anything plaguing the white community. Please don’t attempt to derail. I asked about a problem which is one of the biggest threats to the black community. Far greater than worrying about Woodrow Wilson.
I don’t much like the idea of other segregated housing arrangements, either, northwesty, However, the idea that black housing would mean that the students would be living with others like themselves is preposterous. Black skin does not equate to a shared culture in 21st century America. And in fact, as I already posted, Harvard blacks expressed a lot of anger over any assumption that THEY had anything in common with urban black stereotypes, eg. dialect and music preferences. So again, would a rich prep school black kid actually feel affinity with a poor black kid from an urban background?
Ironic. Is there a black on black violence problem at Princeton that needs to be addressed?
The ultimate irony that they hate Wilson for his segregationist views yet are asking for a “segregated” dorm.
@mnm111 - not segregated.
http://6abc.com/news/students-demand-changes-to-princeton-university/1091665/
^ If a student of any race has an interest in black culture, it would be open to them. That’s in line with most cultural housing options on campuses I am aware of.
This is an interesting, complex, and nuanced topic. Are there any AA posters on this thread? I am interested in their perspective.
@OHMomof2 here is the quote from the first article. Segregation was clearly mentioned as part of the student’s new demands that
"the university create a new affinity housing option for black students, so that those interested in black culture could live segregated away from the rest of campus. "
“The ultimate irony that they hate Wilson for his segregationist views yet are asking for a “segregated” dorm.”
So women shouldn’t ask for “a room of one’s own” when they’re promoting equal rights?
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“The ultimate irony that they hate Wilson for his segregationist views yet are asking for a “segregated” dorm.”
So feminist women shouldn’t ask for “a room of one’s own?”
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I fail to see the moral equivalency here.
These students are welcome to protest. I cannot sympathize with a group who seeks to apply our modern moral and societal tenets to a historical figure. Are we to strike down all the references and institutions named for Washington and Jefferson?
That was the case with the cultural affinity houses at my LAC. They were open to anyone with a serious interest and a willingness to be an active AND respectful* participant in house co-curricular and EC activities.
- Part of this means if one has little/no affinity or familiarity of that particular culture/society that the student spends more time listening to those with more knowledge/experience.
This has generated some fiction between students who claimed they had “overseas experience” of that particular culture/society…even after it was found it was spent mostly/completely in isolated American enclaves(i.e. Isolated ex-pat communities like the ones I saw in the ROC(Taiwan) and Mainland China or some overseas military bases where there was so little interaction between the enclaves and the local society that one may as well have been living back in the US).
And there was a noticeable difference between students whose “overseas experience” was spent living in the midst of the local society with much daily interaction/engagement and where they had to adapt to the etiquette/cultural norms of the local society and those living in the isolated ex-pat enclaves where that wasn’t the case.
Is the part about living segregated from the rest of campus an actual reason given by the protestors? Or is it editorializing from the Daily Caller, a news source that tends to promote conservative views. Affinity housing is not a new concept, and existed at the college I went to, which included a dorm for black students. They were in no way segregated from the rest of the campus, and I went to many of their events as someone who is not black. They even had non black members. I see no reason why things would be different at Princeton. At the very least, time spent outside of your dorm would not be spent segregated.
[quote[BJL members will be involved in a working group with the staff of the Residential Colleges to begin discussions on the viability of the formation of Affinity Housing for those interested in black culture.
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Cornell has had this sort of thing for decades, and it’s been controversial the whole time. But some students seem to feel a need for it. And voluntary segregation is not the same thing as segregation imposed by others.
The original demand was for a segregated space. Eisgruber agreed to start thinking about maybe putting something together along the lines of Affinity Housing.
And it is not self segregation if the college says people of only one race are allowed in. It shouldn’t matter which race it is.
Bingo.
The original demands was for “a cultural space on campus dedicated specifically to black students” and goes on to suggest it be located in what i assume is the student center. That does not say segregated or no one else allowed.
http://www.universitypressclub.com/the-ink/
and the signed agreement in its entirety:
