“Princeton was still known as the Ivy with the most conservative student body among the Ivies when I was in HS in the early-mid '90s and several older URM HS classmates who attended Princeton were so put off by the dismissive attitudes from the student body dominated by upper/upper-middle class White boarding/private day school graduates of that era when they attended in the early '90s they felt compelled to relate their accounts to younger classmates…especially URMs so if they decide to apply and attend P if admitted, they are going into it with their eyes wide open.”
If I can’t hold opinions on issues affecting various races because I’m not a member of that race, it seems to me that maybe it would be wise to institute a policy that one cannot opine on how various student bodies feel about topics unless one is a student or alum of such college. Not this completely imagined alleged and unbelievable discussions with friends, cousins, acquaintances, and high school classmates.
A history of a given society or individual which only provides the positive aspects of the individual while omitting the negative aspects is not only incomplete, but the very definition of whitewashing.
Incidentally, that’s the very similar to the type of arguments I’ve seen Japanese colonialist/militarist apologists in the Japanese political establishment and right wing groups have used for years to decry efforts by Japanese university academics, public teacher unions, various Japanese civic/peace groups, and the international community at large to criticize and denounce the appalling lack of coverage of Japanese colonialist and militarist atrocities before and during WWII in Japan’s K-12 history curricula.
And the more recent right-wing administrations including the current one have played to constituencies which have been trying with some success to further suppress the teaching of the less savory aspects of Japan’s recent historical past as shown by the Japanese foreign ministry’s efforts to remove a monument to the Comfort Women who were impressed and victimized by the Japanese Empire:
Actually as the parent of a student at one of these colleges, I mainly agree that we should, at minimum, take our outside opinions with a grain of salt and acknowledge that we, as outsiders, probably don’t know what’s going on like those on campus do. I’m getting secondhand info myself, of course, form my kid…not my kid’s roommate’s aunt’s previous boss.
@CardinalFang,
Police are killing all races at an alarming rate. TheGuardian maintains a running count of people killed by police in the US, and we are up to 1027 so far this year:
The page shows that per million, 2.57 white people are killed by police, whereas for blacks the number is 6.20. In other words, police are killing blacks at about 2.4x the rate of killing whites. Must be racial discrimination, right? Let’s dig deeper.
In 2013, Blacks committed 47% of all murders in the United States, despite being only about 13% of the total population (link at end). So Blacks committed murder at 3.5x the rate that whites do. If the number of police encounters is proportional to the murder rate, it suggests that the police use extraordinary restraint in dealing with blacks as compared to whites.
I haven’t done the analysis for other types of crimes, and perhaps they show a different picture. But my point is that you shouldn’t just automatically believe a headline, even from a reputed news source.
@hebegebe, that’s an interesting database. And according to that database, only 45 of the 1027 killed by police were female. The gender imbalance absolutely dwarfs the small race imbalance.
As you know but are pretending not to know, hebegebe, Black Lives Matter was started in response to specific killings by police of black men and boys, killings that we know were unjustifiable because we can see the video. Walter Scott, shot while he was running away. Tamir Rice, a 12-year-old with a toy gun, shot by police less than three seconds after they drove up. Eric Garner, choked to death while completely subdued, after being arrested for selling loose cigarettes. Laquan McDonald, shot while walking down the street.
I don’t know how anyone can watch the Laquan McDonald video and not think the police shot him in cold blood for no good reason. The Tamir Rice video is similarly awful.