<p>^ I’ll add the most moronic of all</p>
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<p>I don’t want to see -ve posts. Please try to provide some facts.</p>
<p>Do you really think there will be a huge difference in your medical school options if you went to Princeton or Yale or Harvard or any of the other schools in that range? Princeton/Yale both place exceedingly well into medical school, base your decision on one of the million differences between the two schools, not on a nonexistent difference in medical school placement.</p>
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<p>Goodluck1–I think that the statistics quoted above (as well as the additional info as to previous years available in this link [Princeton</a> University - Dean of the College - FAQ](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/faculty/grading/faq/]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/faculty/grading/faq/) ) are all that’s available from Princeton in terms of med schools admissions (and I should note that many/most schools don’t provide as much information as Princeton).</p>
<p>Princeton and I assume Yale (although I can’t find any specifics on its website), have very high acceptance rates into medical school and as PimpDaddy has suggested, I think that you and your son should probably make your decision based on other factors.</p>
<p>Good luck with your decision and congratulations to your son on so many wonderful acceptances.</p>
<p>Let me give some FA details. Yale FA offer is the best among 10 offers we have. Princeton’s offer is 5K less per year than that of Yale’s(we need to pay 5k more per year to Princeton). Can we bargain with Princeton, if my son decides to go to Princeton?</p>
<p>Harvard & Yale Medical Schools give highest priority to Harvard & Yale UG applicants.
About 5 times more Yale UG are enrolled at Yale Med School than Princeton UG. </p>
<p>If you want to go Harvard-Yale level medical school, then you should go H Y UG.
Yale UG also have an opportunity to conduct research with Yale Med faculty members and
get a recommendation letter from someone known to the yale med school admissions committee. </p>
<p>Most Princeton UG end up at state-university level med schools.</p>
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Dang, your expansive evidence has really stumped me now…</p>
<p>Well I have no desire to go to Harvard nor Yale Med School so I’m at no disadvantage in comparison to Harvard/Yale undergrads then.</p>
<p>Btw, your stats are horrendously off. Actually, 5 times more Princeton undergrads attend Harvard Med than Harvard undergrads.</p>
<p>Yup. I said it on the internet, so it must be true.</p>
<p>Well. At Yale Law
17 Princeton UG enrolled vs. 82 from Yale UG.
82/17 ~ 5. I know it is hard to believe. but there is really a HUGE difference.
[Yale</a> University Bulletin | Yale Law School 2009?2010 | Law School Students](<a href=“Welcome | Office of the University Printer”>Welcome | Office of the University Printer)</p>
<p>All Ivy league levele schools MD PhD JD MBA programs have similar ratio.
Princeton’s lack of graduate/professional school is really a HUGE disadvange. THat is why Princeton UG end up getting a job that requires only undergradute degree.</p>
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At Stanfod Med Law, Stanford UG get first priority and Princeton UG are at disadvantge.
At Columbia Med Law, Columbia UG get first priority and Princeton UG are treated as 2nd class applicant.
All other top grad schools have similiar admission policy.
That is why Princeton UG end up getting a job that requires only UG degee.</p>
<p>really german car? so that’s why Princeton UG has a 92% med school acceptance rate, only 2% shy of Yale’s</p>
<p>[Princeton</a> University - Dean of the College - FAQ](<a href=“http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/faculty/grading/faq/]Princeton”>http://www.princeton.edu/odoc/faculty/grading/faq/)</p>
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<p>I think that Princeton had a 93% acceptance rate last year, according to those stats. I was wondering where you got the Yale stat from–I can’t find anything published by Yale giving the 94% figure.</p>
<p>You can go to Yale Med school and request a year book (or facebook), which lists
all students with UG school attended. Approximately 30-40% students are from Yale UG. Similar statistics at Harvard Columbia Stanford Med Law PhD MBA programs.</p>
<p>^Dude, no one cares. If Princeton had a med school, I sure as hell wouldn’t go. So there is effectively no disadvantage for me whatsoever. You lost ;).</p>
<p>I graduated from Princeton 25+ years ago, so I can’t tell you exactly what is going on campus at this second (the advantage is, as an executive and physician recruiter, I am seeing physicians’ resumes who are 20 to 30 years past their college days).</p>
<p>In any case, your child can get into med school by attending either Yale or Princeton (although I had to make such an admission about our hated Yale). I doubt if his chances are any better coming from one or the other (and getting into med school is only going to get easier, as more med school slots are created - we have an acute shortage of MD’s these days, especially in primary care).</p>
<p>The deciding factor shouldn’t be whether or not Yale or Princeton gives him a better shot at getting into med school, but rather his decision should be based on which college fits him best. If he’s miserable at Princeton, or winds up hating New Haven, his grades will be lousy, and he’ll falter. </p>
<p>The two schools academically will provide everything he needs to get in. All of the tenured profs at these two schools are internationally-renowned. There are only about 12 courses he must take to get into med school anyway, and those courses are offered at any college in the country. I know a very successful orthopedist who was a religion major at Princeton. </p>
<p>The settings of these two schools are much different, and both have different atmospheres. Have him check the schools out carefully in the next few weeks, and make his decision based upon which one he likes best.</p>
<p>Some additional thoughts:</p>
<p>1) I wouldn’t choose an undergraduate college because it has a med school, especially an elite med school like Yale’s. Yale Med chooses from a national/international pool of applicants. Most Yale undergrads who are qualified to get into med school will get turned down by Yale if they apply - they may be good enough to get into med school but not good enough to get into Yale - the competition is thick. Perhaps Yale undergrads get a small preference at Yale, but I doubt if it’s much. They are looking for diversity, and may find that brilliant kid from Kalamazoo College, Grinnell or University of Montana (and yes, there are brilliant kids at all those schools - brilliance isn’t reserved for the Ivy college students) to be more interesting. My father, an orthodontist, was accepted into Pitt’s dental school after two years at a no-name junior college that graduated less than 100 kids a year, in no small part because they wanted more diversity and because they wanted to train some dentists who would practice in small towns in the middle of nowhere, like the one in which my father grew up.</p>
<p>2) I occasionally see CV’s from physicians who attended med school at the same place they did their undergraduate work, but that’s rare. It’s rarer still at an elite med school (and who is to say that after four years of college at Yale, he would prefer to stay at Yale, rather than go to Hopkins or Baylor? …).</p>
<p>3) I applied to Princeton as a chemistry major, changed my mind before I got there, winding up as a psychology major. I graduated thinking I wanted to be a writer, wrote magazine articles for three years, didn’t like it, and after twelve years in sales management, moved into consulting and executive/physician search. Your son’s college and career path is likely to resemble something like that - almost every kid changes his mind over and over again during college, and after graduation. My doctor graduated from college, spent a year in Asia, and then decided to attend med school. He needed to take biology and some other courses he hadn’t taken as an undergrad at Oberlin, and got into Dartmouth Med School.</p>
<p>4) I think that a kid who chooses Yale should do so in part because they want to be in a setting like New Haven, rather than for the quality of their biology department or the percentage accepted to med school. The opportunities to get involved in outreach programs for inner city people are far more plentiful than at Princeton. If a fairly tough urban climate is something he finds scary, he should think about Princeton, rather than Yale. (My business partner went to Trinity, which is set in a struggling neighborhood in Hartford, CT, and we have discussed this issue many times).</p>
<p>5) Don’t try to compare one college’s med school acceptance percentage with that of another school. To make any sensible comparison, you need to have complete data on who is in each pool, and whether the school discourages kids who aren’t likely to get into med school from applying to med school. That kind of data is not available.</p>
<p>boondocks, nice post.</p>
<p>“4) I think that a kid who chooses Yale should do so in part because they want to be in a setting like New Haven, rather than for the quality of their biology department or the percentage accepted to med school. The opportunities to get involved in outreach programs for inner city people are far more plentiful than at Princeton. If a fairly tough urban climate is something he finds scary, he should think about Princeton, rather than Yale. (My business partner went to Trinity, which is set in a struggling neighborhood in Hartford, CT, and we have discussed this issue many times).”</p>
<p>Exactly, this really should be the only factor at play.</p>
Hi, Could you please let us know what your son finally decided and what does he think about that decision now. My daughter is accepted to Princeton. She is interested in pre-med path. Applying to Yale and Harvard as well. Thanks for initiating the great discussion. I really appreciate your feedback.
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