<p>*Class of 2014 - Admissions Yield for Regular Decision Applicants **</p>
<p>76% - Harvard
66% - Stanford
57% - Princeton
56% - Yale
53% - MIT
48% - Penn
44% - Dartmouth
39% - Cornell
33% - Williams
28% - Northwestern</p>
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<p>**Assuming 97% yield for ED accepted students and 85% yield for EA accepted students (Stanford, Yale, MIT)*</p>
<p>Omega, beat you to it before I read your post, however I ran out of time to redo the original post</p>
<p>Princeton admitted 137 from the waillist ? that is more than 10% of the freshman class.
Is this normal ? Princeton is somehow using waitlist to manipulate the admission statistics ( to get lower admit rate and higher yield ) ?</p>
<p>How many more will be admitted from WL by the end of summer ?</p>
<p>Would the yield for EA/SCEA be the same as ED? Are there statistics to support that?</p>
<p>Clearly early decision policies jack up the yield. However, USNWR does not use yield in their rankings. Do other rankings use yield in their methodology?</p>
<p>I think we still have to focus on why 43% of students admitted to Princeton choose another school? And also why the yield went down this year.</p>
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<p>Stanford’s gotten more selective. We’re still more selective than MIT. Our acceptance rate in relation to Harvard and Yale are about the same. You should really look up some data before making unsubstantiated claims.</p>
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While the ED yield is a sensible one, you simply can’t estimate the EA yield. This seems like an exercise in futility.</p>
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<p>Since Princeton got rid of ED, its yield rate has fallen more rapidly than HYSM’s yields (which have stayed more constant). (See what happens when you cannot lock up half your class like a lower ivy?) So relative to HYSM, Princeton’s selectivity has declined. HTH. Again.</p>
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<p>But this way Princeton can rank ahead of Yale and MIT in IMAGINARY yield…</p>
<p>ggoos, as you continue to attack Princeton, may you be reminded that the following is the title to the table posted above:</p>
<p>“Class of 2014 - Admissions Yield for Regular Decision Applicants”</p>
<p>no more, no less</p>
<p>now, if you believe that Stanford, Yale and MIT can’t even capture 85% of their EA accepted students, then let me know and I will adjust accordingly</p>
<p>billka, Princeton has been on a program to increase its freshman class every year such that the total enrollment of the undergraduate college is 5,200 by the fall of 2012.</p>
<p>This increasing of the freshman class size each year in addition to switching to only RD recently makes it tougher to judge the expected yields for Princeton.</p>
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<p>Presumably, prospective students who apply to YSM by means of (SC)EA would have enrolled at YSM at a (near) 85% rate anyway had there not been (SC)EA. Of course, this is just my guess, unlike your scientifically sound hypothesis based on statistically valid data.</p>
<p>never thought i’d see someone make a claim as idiotic as “prospective students who apply to YSM by means of (SC)EA would have enrolled at YSM at a (near) 85% rate anyway had there not been (SC)EA”. the whole point of SCEA is to boost yield, and it has shown to be very effective and anyone who’s been around on CC knows it. does anyone else also hear the straws being grasped at?</p>
<p>I would also presume that a lot of Princeton’s loss in yield also has to do not only with it dropping ED, but also Harvard.</p>
<p>Yale’s recent yield from EA</p>
<p>Class of 2012 = 80%
Previous Classes = 88%</p>
<p>we are using 85% in the table above</p>
<p>[Yale</a> Daily News - Early admit rate plunges to 13.4 percent](<a href=“http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2008/12/15/early-admit-rate-plunges-to-134-percent/]Yale”>http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2008/12/15/early-admit-rate-plunges-to-134-percent/)</p>
<p>*“Last year, 80 percent of students admitted under Yale’s early action program chose to enroll, a drop from about 88 percent in prior years. Still, because 885 students were accepted during the early round, more than half of the matriculating class of 2012 was composed of students admitted early.” *</p>
<p>I would assume that some of the drop in yield for Princeton also has to do with the decision of an increasing amount of propective students going to colleges on full merit aid such as Duke, Vanderbilt and UNC instead of Princeton.</p>
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<p>If I am “idiotic” for underestimating the (SC)EA boost to yield, then the Princeton administrators who didn’t think of using EA are fr1ck1n’ ■■■■■■■■!!! What total imbeciles they are for trying to copy Harvard only to have it blow up in their faces. Did they seriously think that they could out-Harvard Harvard??? What typical Princetonian hubris!! Here is the result of your “genius” at work:</p>
<p>Princeton’s Yield:</p>
<p>(with ED)</p>
<p>2005 68.1
2006 68.6</p>
<h2>2007 67.7</h2>
<p>(without ED)</p>
<p>2008 58.6
2009 59.8
2010 56.9</p>
<p>How low will you go???</p>
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<p>If it’s CC conventional wisdom, then it must be true?!?! Talk about “idiotic!”</p>
<p>At preview day it seemed like there were 4 main groups of people deciding between Princeton.</p>
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<li>Those who had already decided on Princeton</li>
<li>Those deciding between HYPS and Whorton</li>
<li>Those deciding between MIT, Caltech, and Princeton</li>
<li>Those deciding between Princeton and Full rides at other schools</li>
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<p>I think Princeton did the best obviously with group 1, then with group 4, then group 2, and then group 3. I would say that a large reason for Princeton’s lower yield (than HYMS) is probably due to its lower yield with engineering students, which it probably loses a lot to MIT. Harvard and Yale really don’t have to worry about that because few apply to those schools for engineering.</p>
<p>buddy, nope it is not losing to MIT…</p>
<p>Princeton is equal or beats MIT on cross admits.</p>
<p>my guess is </p>
<p>#4. Those deciding between Princeton and Full rides at other schools</p>
<p>That wasn’t the impression I got on preview days… </p>
<p>While only about 20% of Princeton majors in engineering, I would guess about 30% of those at Preview days planned on majoring in engineering. They have to be going somewhere, and most of them were deciding between Princeton and MIT.</p>
<p>Purely anecdotal, but I didn’t meet a single person at the Preview Days who ended up going to Duke etc. on a big scholarship. They all in the end picked Princeton.</p>
<p>so buddy you are making these conclusions based on the 6 prospective students that you met at Princeton Previews Days?</p>
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