<p>What are your favorite things about umich?</p>
<p>how many forums are you going to post this question?</p>
<p>this guy is ■■■■■■■■ hard. basically he’s making the posters do the homework on colleges for him.</p>
<p>Pros: Exellent business, medical,law, education, and engineering programs. Great Sports team. Stunning campus. Award winning faculty. </p>
<p>Cons: Can get REALLY COLD. Tuition is kinda high for out of state</p>
<p>No… don’t respond.</p>
<p>**** I responded</p>
<p>^^^ Its more like “_____ is not your personal army”</p>
<p>Pros: the Eli Broad School of Business is one of the best in the country if you are interested in business. The James Madison honors college is also really good if you are interested in pre-law. The football team just won the Big Ten Championship last year. With Hoke as the new coach, next season can only be better!</p>
<p>^^i just laughed for like 10 min straight hahaha</p>
<p>Actually, since I do not have the resources to attend all of these schools <em>gasp-At the same time</em> I just want to know what it is like there as a student, w/o all of those pesky tuition bills.
But thanks for thinking I’m a ■■■■■, instead of answering my question. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>ever heard of doing your own research and <em>gasp</em> visit the school?? quite being lazy</p>
<p>I personally have really enjoyed being a student at Michigan State, let me list why it is better in every way then the University of Michigan.</p>
<p>Pros: </p>
<p>Cons: Everything that wasn’t listed above.</p>
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<p>If you don’t have the resources to visit the school, you’re not likely to have the resources to attend the school OOS.
Or if you meant that you don’t have the resources to attend, why not just read the myriad other threads on this subject already. </p>
<p>These discussion threads are meant for generally specific topics or questions. Usually the more specific you are and the more detail YOU provide about your interests, the more specific and helpful the responses can be.</p>
<p>Good posters who like helping people do not like to feel they’re helping people who are too lazy to do basic, broad brush research of the ilk it might take to read, oh, say, the ADMISSIONS FAQ of the school’s website and at least 10 or 20 of the threads first.</p>
<p>That OOS thing isn’t true ^^^</p>
<p>But look around, go to websites, search the forums, etc. before you post a thread that has been posted probably 100 times before.</p>
<p>The very first topic when you click this forum- is Michigan weak in anything- will address all (or many) of your concerns about Michigan.</p>
<p>Visiting colleges before applying to them is very unpractical for the majority of Americans, regardless of financial income. </p>
<p>For many other forums where you posted the same idea, I’d recommend just going to google and typing in “pros cons vanderbilt” or w/e other colleges you’re looking at like “umich vs berkeley” (I’m just guessing here) and that should definitely be more helpful than waiting for people to respond on here.</p>
<p>Purple duckie, what are you talking about? If a person can’t afford a visit to a school for which the COA is $48,000 a year (whether by cash, loan part grant or scholarship or the more likely scenario of all of the above) then they’re not likely to be able to afford the school. So, would you spend or borrow $48,000 x 4 sight unseen? Travel costs are a comparatively small price to pay in the college funding realm.</p>
<p>Note that the only reason I point this out is because I regularly converse with students who at the END of the process are upset that they can’t afford the OOS rate!</p>
<p>kmcmom, I think PDM meant that Michigan can sometimes (albeit not always) offer significant financial aid/merit scholarship to OOS students. Obviously, as a public university, Michigan will attend to the needs of IS students first, but there is always enough left to extend financial aid/merit scholarships to OOS students too.</p>
<p>That last part… eh…</p>
<p>Well, not as much as IS kids, obviously</p>
<p>I didn’t visit a lot of OOS schools I applied to, in fact I only visited Michigan. Mainly because it was close.</p>
<p>It would be unreasonable to travel out to Cali to visit Stanford just to see if I think its pretty or not. But if I got into there and nit Michigan I would go there. I didn’t visit it, but I could , more or less, afford it.</p>
<p>I meant that just because you don’t visit a school, it doesn’t mean you can’t afford it</p>
<p>Sorry, no edit on phone</p>
<p>^I agree with that statement. What I don’t agree with is the idea that people “can’t afford” to visit schools – yet think they <em>can</em> afford the school. If you can’t afford to visit the school, you usually also can’t actually afford the school. Or your financial priorities are messed up. This latter is true of many PARENTS who tell their kids they “CAN’T AFFORD” to tour colleges when what they mean is that it is not a financial priority in the household. It is teetering on the brink of irresponsible to a) have a kid select a college without comparative visits and b) foster the kind of student debt that is NORMAL today without ever having closely observed what you’d be getting for your money.</p>
<p>If what the poster meant is that he can’t afford to visit UMich until/unless he is accepted, then fine. If the poster means he’d make that kind of decision without visiting – whether its his, his parents, UMich’s or the State/Fed’s money, it’s kind of being “penny wise but pound foolish.” You wouldn’t buy a $200,000 car without driving it or inspecting the engine, nor should you “buy” a $200,000 degree without a lot of research and direct observation.</p>