<p>"More than 3,100 students — nearly half of them athletes — enrolled in classes they didn't have to show up for and received artificially inflated grades in what an investigator called a 'shadow curriculum' that lasted nearly two decades at the University of North Carolina." ...</p>
<p>UNC should get all sports dearth penalty.Beyond belief made worse by aggressive denial and lies. </p>
<p>Yes, 3,111 students. Less than 1% of graduates since the scandal began. </p>
<p>Two things. 1) CC should de list UNC from it’s “top universities” headings. (I dont’ believe a university that willingly and intentionally commits academic fraud…is a “top university”. 2) Whether or not they get the athletic death penalty…the reputational damage has been done. There is now effectively one less “public Ivy”. A school that purports to a high academic reputation does not set up no-attendance, completely bogus, courses of course cannot be considered a public Ivy, nor leading higher ed institution.</p>
<p>@itsmeitsme, so the work I do every day, the incredibly hard and amazing work that others do here, is discredited because of limited academic fraud that ended over 3 years ago? I’ve certainly never participated in these classes, and neither have 99% of students who have attended the university. The academic fraud committed here had no effect on the difficulty of classes or the value of a degree from Carolina for 99% of students. If it were up to you, why would you choose to discredit MY degree? 99% of us did NOTHING wrong and saw no benefits from the fraud that took place. </p>
<p>@itsmeitsme I would tell you everything that’s wrong with what you said, but I only have time for so much. I love this school I’m at and I work hard to get the grades I earn, and in four years I’ll proudly say I graduated from one the top universities in the nation. Just because UNC had inconsistencies that peaked 10 years ago and affected 1% of the student population doesn’t mean it is anything less than what it was before.</p>
<p>@itsmeitsme Do you think Carolina is the only place this has happened? I can tell you, 99% of students and 100% since 2011 have worked their butts off for degrees from UNC. </p>
<p>Really ugly now. UNC needs fumigating</p>
<p><a href=“http://elitedaily.com/sports/former-unc-player-says-athletes-used-girls-take-tests-run-train-listen-video/846231/?utm_content=buffer177f4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer”>http://elitedaily.com/sports/former-unc-player-says-athletes-used-girls-take-tests-run-train-listen-video/846231/?utm_content=buffer177f4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer</a></p>
<p>@barrons, did you actually read the Wainstein Report or are you just spouting off opinions that have been formed for you?</p>
<p>That article you posted cites 3 sources, a phone call to a radio station where the caller identity was never completely confirmed, the interview with Rashad McCants (in which he makes claims that other players have denied and the Wainstein Report explicitly refutes), and TFM.</p>
<p>If you think UNC does not have MAJOR issues please just turn the AD pro. It does not deserve to be a college program. The way UNC has handled this shows total disregard for the truth and assuming responsibility for what happened. Pretty much the Sandusky of an AD.
We also want the Final Four banner from 2005 you cheated to win. It will look much cleaner in the Kohl Center.</p>
<p>LOL this coming from the home of “shoegate”…</p>
<p>The math is simple here: ((18 years * stolen education from 3111 students) + widespread cover up) * continued denial = 5 year ban from all sports + delisting from USNWR top schools list for 5 years.</p>
<p>“Shoegate” where some players got discounts on shoes from a local discount shoe businessman vs massive academic fraud equals no comparison. You are being ridiculous in trying to compare the two. .Really. </p>
<p>I was not comparing the two. I was simply pointing out the irony of your self-righteous “cleaner” comment. If you don’t like “shoegate”, perhaps you would prefer the NCAA probations for impermissible benefits to athletes using booster funds or Wisconisin coaches and staff getting expense reimbursement from boosters? Clean? … Really.</p>
<p>Comparing parking tickets from over 10 years ago to major scandal. One need not be perfect to take exception to really ugly stuff. BTW most coaches get booster money to pay their their salaries. I see you graduated from the UNC school of obfuscation and attacking the messenger. Nice. I hope the ban is five years and every banner comes down.</p>
<p>Barrons, you never answered my question. Did you actually read the Wainstein Report?</p>
<p>And the current football players at Penn State had nothing to do with the horrible acts that Jerry Sandusky did…however, the NCAA still brought down sanctions against those who had nothing to do with the scandal…the NCAA punishes the schools for acts that happened years ago…perhaps there needs to be a change at the top - NCAA corrupt </p>
<p>Usually, when people want to talk trash about this whole mess (generally dookies and wuffies), I respond with something along the lines of, “I will not talk to you about this if all you know about the matter are the innuendos and half-truths reported in the media. If you would like to have an honest and intelligent discussion about the issue after reading the Wainstein Report (which I have read), please let me know.”</p>
<p>Usually the dookies will respond with, “Read a 113 page report!!! I can’t read that…I’m too busy with med school/law school/grad school/my job on wall street!!”</p>
<p>Usually the wuffies will respond with, “Read a 113 page report?!?! I can’t read!”</p>
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