<p>Why is PSAT a big deal? No college cares about it- just REAL SAT. just relax. Use it as a study guide for SAT. Remember, it's just a test.</p>
<p>still no curves posted on CB counselor site :(</p>
<p>yeah, Cleigh, was that the Wednesday or the Saturday test?</p>
<p>Yea, so my school's like really stupid, and does't give out score untill February, which kind of sucks. But I guess it's okay, since I'm only a freshman. But I dunno how I'm going to be able to stand that when I'm a junior.</p>
<p>Sophie's curve is a hoax. There is no way that answering 3 wrong on writing plus 1 more for penatly is the second stadard deviation on the right side of the bell curve (70). It has to be at least 76.</p>
<p>yay math! nah, statistics isn't math. At most, it's poser-math.</p>
<p>Well, anyways, it's good to see a hoax uncovered. I'll believe numbers over people any day, even if I don't understand statistics.</p>
<p>I second stats being poser math!</p>
<p>What's real math to you then? And don't say math league, anyone can do that stuff with practice.</p>
<p>please don't insult my beloved math league</p>
<p>Nah, math league is poser-math, too. Just my opinion, biased of course:</p>
<p>Real math is the kind of math that you can apply to more interesting things: for example physics. Collectively, you use real math in general to describe nature, to discover things about the physical world, or to better understand the universe. Or, another type of good real math is theoretical: it is not really applied to the real world, but it is still very interesting, finding more things about the realm of numbers.</p>
<p>Statistics, I don't know much about it, but here is my impression of it. You can't do much with it except analyze a set of boring numbers generated by boring events: i.e. elections, standardized test scores, etc. You can't build a bridge with it, you can't describe a black hole with it, you can't do much fun stuff with it.</p>
<p>But I use the words "fun" ,"interesting", and "boring" very subjectively.</p>
<p>ehhhh, yeah, math league is fun, not real math though, just study-study math.</p>
<p>I suppose you can see something beautiful about statistics. It's very subjective.</p>
<p>Let's have a math debate to take our minds off of PSAT scores!</p>
<p>The thing about statistics is that it's a filler subject when scientists can't explain phenomenons patterns observed in nature. For example, when biologists can't determine if certain traits are genetic or acquired through experience, they use correlation coefficients with twin traits through long generations of family lines. Basically, statistics is used when scientists can't fully explain the causation behind events. It's only used for correlation to suggest causation, and therfore try to convince its audience that causation occurs when in fact no hard evidence exists. In conclusion I agree with you, statistics is for noobs.</p>
<p>I disagree. Statistics is just not for "covering up" what is ambiguous. It is essential in population studies, both for humans and other animals. For humans, opinion polls, distributions of income, of diseases, etc greatly influence policies that have profound impact on many lives. In biology, or population ecology studies, statistics is necessary for conservation efforts and behavior analysis. These are just some few examples of the application of statistics. I think we should not bigotedly dismiss statistics as useless. If it were, then the subject would have long been extinct. The fact that it is not is a compelling testimony of its importance.</p>
<p>I disagree, too. Although I don't like statistics, I feel that it is not a useless subject that you guys make it sound.</p>
<p>I take statistics at my school, and its pretty much taught like A.P. Statistics. Now, even though I'm good at math, its not something I want to continue in my academic life. Anways, I find that statistics is much more applicable to real life situations, where as calculas and all of that is pretty much useless unless your going into certain fields.</p>
<p>Its not a question of whether of AP Statisitcs is taught like a real AP class. I've found a consensus among many individuals who love math that calculus is far more interesting. In terms of applicability, calculus is equally if not more applicable to real life situations. Statisitcs only seems to be more useful because the average person is exposed more to statistics than calculus, such as in polls, surveys, average SAT score, etc. I don't think we should compare on the basis of which branch we are more familiar with in an everyday sense, but on the basis of the value of the application of each branch. Calculus is not something studied in theory. Software developers, aerospace engineers, economists all are dependent on calculus, and because these people are dependent we also are. I'm not antagonizing those who love statistics or hate calculus, but stressing not to deem Calculus "worthless" just because its use doesn't seem as evident as the use of statistics. I shouldn't have called stats poser math, but I always find the debate between the worth of calculus and the worth of statistics fun, and as Mr. Layman says its a good way to get out minds off the PSATs, something we really shouldn't kill ourselves over.</p>
<p>i love math but i do not want to take statistics... blech</p>
<p>ATTENTIOn!!!
anyway back to psat
i just got a mass email from my GC saying that our PSAT scores will be available to the students during lunch tomorrow! yes!! so hopefully she is right and i'll let u guys know what i find out =D</p>
<p>i took the wednesday Psat btw</p>
<p>What state are you in? Close to wherever they mail these scores from?</p>
<p>(I'm such a nervous ball of nerves that it's ridiculous-- the sooner these scores arrive, the better.)</p>
<p>did ANYONE take the nov. 2 test?</p>