<p>I went to WashU (semester), Northwestern (quarter) and Stanford (quarter). Hope that satisfies your curiosity. LOL!</p>
<p>ahh the plight of the naive but prideful young student. haha it seems to me the only person in this thread that has experienced both is mrtrojanman (ahem and someone else), and well let's just say that he's delusional like me.</p>
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I went to WashU (semester), Northwestern (quarter) and Stanford (quarter). Hope that satisfies your curiosity. LOL!
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<p>i'm guessing my bookie won't be too nice with this one ;)</p>
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your logic is still extremely flawed. lol
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<p>Amen! I am quite amazed he's still doesn't get it. I offered counter-examples and he call them "non sequitur". lol!</p>
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Amen! I am quite amazed he's still doesn't get it. I offered counter-examples and he call them "non sequitur". lol!
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<p>using your logic, i guess since most schools are publics that nullifies any idea that the top schools are privates. i guess the fact that the top 20 schools according to USNews all happen to be private by mere coincidence.</p>
<p>Hmm..are you on something? :P</p>
<p>It's the other way around; if most schools are public (which I don't even know if it's true or not), then this would make private schools even more, NOT LESS, impressive for crowding the top 20 spots. Though I think US News ranking is biased against public schools but that's another story.</p>
<p>Now let me make what I intended to show you earlier plain and simple. You have over 90% of ALL schools that are on semeste system; if the distribution is random, then when you look at a subset, say, the top 20 schools, you would expect over 90% of them are on semster system also. So having 82%, as you counted, of those with semester system doesn't prove anything. On the other hand, it seems like we actually have a larger concentration of schools with quarter system in the top-20 group than in other categories.</p>
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i still fail to see your point... well aside from the fact that it is nonsequitur.
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<p>Your point is just as non sequitur.</p>
<p>"First, it isn't trying to sqeeze the same amount of material into a shorter time, but rather spliting the same class time into three parts rather than two. Yes, it's more fast-paced, but thats what I love about it. I would get so bored in a semester class system.
Second, how much time do you need to "soak up information"? If you are a motivated student, you will have no problems whatsoever.</p>
<p>And third, your logic is still extremely flawed. lol"</p>
<p>here we go, i always have to striaghten out stupidity on the quarter sytem.</p>
<p>first, yes you do need to soak up the same info in a shorter time. heres how: calculus at USC is 2 semester divided into differential and integral calculus. thats 30 weeks, one academic yr. at uci its divided the same, differential and integral, but each course is 1 quarter or 20 weeks total for both classes. multivariable calc is one quarter at uci, and one semester at USC, thats a 10 wk differnce for the same course. same for physics, o chem, series numbers, molecular chem, and so on. </p>
<p>Second, ask that same question to all your friends on academic probabtion and end up graduating in 7 yrs. i beat that sytem most didi not, i know how it is.</p>
<p>third, n/m its too easy making you look foolish ill stop right here, wouldnt want to hurt your feelings any more.</p>
<p>Trojan, what are you implying?</p>
<p>seriously 16 weeks for calc III compared to 10 weeks in a quarter system makes a big difference...</p>
<p>im not implying anything, everything i posted is explicit.</p>
<p>yes, 5-6 wks for the same course is a big difference. and heres something else i forgot to mention: it was pointed out that course that two semesters are the same in 3 quarters. ive alos noticed that classes impossible to complete in one quarter usually are split up into 2 quarters, where most of these classes would take 1 semester ata semester school. heres an example: stats here at USC takes one semetser (15 wks). stats at uci take 2 quarters (20 wks). thast 5 more wks of more info that i would probably not need. 5 wks wasted, great learning experience.</p>
<p>i have more info i could share, but i need to get back to studying.</p>
<p>what happened to the quarter system proponents? i guess its hard to think with all those never ending midterms, papers, quizes, homeworks, and finals.</p>
<p>Actually no, we're all just amazed by your insightful posts ::rolling eyes::, Trojanman. Btw, didn't you say you added me to your ignore list a while ago? Interesting that you even saw my posts... Oh, and you don't have to worry about my feelings.
Anyway - to respond to your "straghtening out of my stupidity"...</p>
<p>I'm sorry, I didn't realize classes at 'SC were so slow. I just assumed that the same three quarters for me were two semesters at a semester school - guess I was mistaken. Yes, my three quarters of math were split into 1) derivative/integral, 2)integral/multivariable and 3)calc-based statistics. And the interesting part is... I did fine! A's in all three quarters, plenty of time to learn the material, I got to know my math TA quite well and had plenty of time to spend some time talking about his experiences with med school and such. It actually felt like a rather leisurely pace to me. And yes, we squeeze two years of chemistry (one of general chemistry and one of O-chem) into four quarters, etc. etc. But that is only one math and chem series. There is another completely separate set of classes that operates on different syllabi.</p>
<p>And tell me, how do you know that the extra five weeks of stats at UCI is information you dont' need? Because I would love to know how you know that. Perhaps they cover all the information in your semester in one quarter, then move on to more advanced stats during the second.
I can just as easily say that the extra 5-6 weeks of your semester are completely useless - probably just goes over material I don't even need to learn </p>
<p>You were saying it was too easy? Perhaps that's because you aren't thinking too much about your responses.</p>
<p>if there is legitimate problem on here that i can help or straighten out, i will speak on it.</p>
<p>you seem to love the sytem, i guess your special. many others are not. ask your super senior 7 th yr friends why theyre not graduating. probably b/c along the way they collapsed under the pressure. happened all the time at uci. i couldnt get the GE classes i was interested in b/c those dinosaurs would alaways get priority b/c they need to get out and grow up. no, they werent triple majoring. </p>
<p>and why is cal, the flagship UC on the semester system? i think its pathetic that ucla spent 90k trying to design a new logo rather than trying to fix a defective sytem. or using that cash for scholarship money for its needy students. you have to love financial management of cali public schools. thats a different story.</p>
<p>also, UC and most other quarter schools start a month late in sept and end a month late in june. probably b/c they need to schedule fall term so you can end on christmas. everybody else starts at aug and finish in may. while all your freinds are heading back to school, youll sit at home bored. your bored b/c you probabaly couldnt score a good summer job or internship that all your semester friends got b/c they got a months head start.</p>
<p>so why is the quarter sytem so great? you dont need to be stressed with bad profs.? what if they are good? that would suck. you can handle the pressure b/c your motivated, and thats exciting? what about those who fail? thats not exciting.</p>
<p>if i didnt experience both sytems first-hand, i would have shut up. i am bitter. i can now do the things i wanted to do for a long time, just b/c of 5 wks. how pathetic. i use to think the reason i am doing well at SC was b/c the quarter system got me use to studying a lot. i would have done well either way.</p>
<p>its not a defective system - I'm sorry you didn't like it, but everyone I know loves being on the quarter system. I don't have any "super senior 7th yera firends" as you put it. Everyone I know is on track to graduate in 4 years, and no one is "collapsing under the pressure". Once again, I'm sorry it was too much for you.
Berkeley is on the semester system because they want to be, I would assume. It's not an obviously superior system, and seems to have worked well for UCLA and many other schools for quite some time. </p>
<p>I have no problem starting a month late and getting out a month later than semester schools. I have a job that employs me year round, so I don't need a pathetic two-month summer job. Same for internships, I'm not interested in a short internship that only lasts for a few months. Besides, I'll be taking summer classes and working. </p>
<p>And yes, it is exciting. And as for those who fail, I really really doubt that it is the quarter system that drove them to failure.</p>
<p>the quarter system is my b****, thats how i transfered to a better school. its funny almost everybody i knew hated the quarter system. its an obvious inferior system for large state schools, maybe not for smaller private schools that handle executing it well and have students that can really handle pressure. but its just that, the quarter system puts you under more pressure. </p>
<p>yes, cal is on the semester sytem b/c it wants to be. why does it want to be on the semester system?</p>
<p>you might not care about getting a summer internship now, but once you graduate jobless you will.</p>
<p>and you wouldnt need to take summer courses if you were on track. i dont. and i lost tons of units transferring, ill graduate maybe a semester late without summer school. with a minor.</p>
<p>is my "logic flawed" or something?</p>
<p>hahahah wow - yes, yes your logic is very flawed.</p>
<p>First, I think most UCLA students can, as you say, "really handle pressure".</p>
<p>Second, nope I really dont' care about getting a summer internship because I will graduate with an acceptance to med school, and I can assure you, I'll have job prospects after that. And I only said that I'm not interested in short summer internships - if i ever do decide to do an internship (not likely), it will be more long term.</p>
<p>and you wouldnt need to take summer courses if you were on track.</p>
<p>What kind of logic is that? So since students getting "off track" is due to the evil quarter system, semester schools shouldn't even have to offer summer classes, right?
I'm taking summer school because I'm double majoring and there is a class offered by the philosophy department only during summer quarter that I really want to take. Not to mention the fact that I need to be on campus for my job. (which is open 24/7 365)</p>
<p>oh wow, i should of assumed all ucla students are just like you, med school bound and all. what about the majority of the uc system? forgot about irvine, santa cruz, riverside, santa barbara, san diego?</p>
<p>if your not concerned about internhips, your peers are. you wouldnt want to say your medschool bound yet, your only 19.</p>
<p>at a normal school, only people who need to catch up need summer school. i think thats the point of it, unless you want to get ahead in which case it would probably be better and cheaper to take more units in a normal term. at USC, counselers always encourage students to take on multiple majors, probably b/c its so smooth when you do; the opposite happened at uci when i wanted a minor, i was always told i would be held back. which brings me to another point: tons of uci students did summer school, not only b/c they were commuters but also b/c they had to catch up. wouldnt you just wish that class you wanted to take was on semester system?</p>
<p>ill say this to the original poster: i think its now obvious what term system is more complex, which has more pressure, which rushes through material, which gives you the oppurtunity to learn less material, and which offers you the better experience.</p>
<p>wouldnt you just wish that class you wanted to take was on semester system?</p>
<p>No, but i do wish it was offered during the normal school year.</p>
<p>if your not concerned about internhips, your peers are. you wouldnt want to say your medschool bound yet, your only 19.</p>
<p>I certainly agree - internships are an important part of getting your foot in the door, as it were, to a particular field. I dont' see what my age has anything to do with being bound for med school...</p>
<p>unless you want to get ahead in which case it would probably be better and cheaper to take more units in a normal term.</p>
<p>cheaper, yes, but why better?</p>
<p>Its obvious that your disillusionment with the quarter system is due to a bad experience. I, on the other hand, have had a great experience with the quarter system. I guess this might be one of those YMMV things... personal preference.</p>
<p>My school is on a Quarter system and we start and end the same time as semester schools... Do they normally get off later and start later? I go to Rose-Hulman, which is a small engineering school ranked #1 6 years in a row for undergraduate engineering so we're another top school on the quarter system. We have a few 5th year seniors, a very small amount. I really don't see why you're saying quarter systems are bad, I would think it would be the school that is at fault. I think a top school could do great on either system. I personally really enjoy the quarter system since you take more classes on average a year which is nice for me at least. There is more opportunity to try different classes since you do take a lot of classes without overloading. I'm also guessing some students learn better with one system than the other, which is not the fault of it being quarter or semester. Sure, we have a decent amount of work all the time, but it's all able to be done and still give you enough time to have a large social life and not go insane. If you can't handle a quarter system, you just need to work on your organization and time management a little more. College is what you make of it, if semsters were fundamentally better than quarters, I'm pretty sure there would be more evidence than just people posting about why they dislike one system or the other. When I graduate from college and apply to Grad School, I'm pretty sure admissions won't be like "Well, he graduated from a good school and got good grades, but it was on the quarter system! denied!"</p>
<p>Also, as for summer school, people here don't really do that at all, but I understand why someone might want to. If they don't want an internship, they might as well do something productive with their summer. Plus, not everyone wants to take 20+ credit hours a quarter for one reason or another.</p>