quite a quandry, please help me choose or enlighten me at least

<p>so far i have been accepted into:</p>

<p>University of Washington
Univeristy of Southern Cal
Occidental College (3-2 with caltech avaliable)
Harvey Mudd</p>

<p>I want to major in something engineering or perhaps mathematics. I know this is a common thing to say on this board, but i would also like to keep a medical career open and take pre-med classes. I live in washington and like the idea of staying close to home, but at the same time, Los Angeles is pretty tempting, but i dont think the location ought to be a big factor in my choice. </p>

<p>I woudl like to know the research opportunities at any of these places and if one or the other would provide more opportunities for me.</p>

<p>a dream of mine woudl be to go to UW medical school because its instate tuition and a great medical school. Would going to UW help me better or worse getting into the medical school? i have 40 credits if i go to UW from AP and college classes at the high school so thats a big bonus. would an engineering and pre-med be possible.</p>

<p>well the moral of the story is that i really have no idea what i want in a college. i dont know what will open which doors and i dont know where i want to spend the next four years of my life. ANY AND ALL HELP IS MUCH APPRECIATED!</p>

<p>-thanks</p>

<p>Try answering the second part of your last paragraph first.</p>

<p>The living and schooling enviornment is more important that trying to decipher which school will open the most doors. The reason is that if you enjoy the college or university community, including the academics, the more likely you are to do well over the course of your undergrad years. This generally means a great chance of becoming involved on campus and recieving better grades in your school work.</p>

<p>I prefer a small liberal arts college that is cooperative rather than cutthroat, so from your list, I would probably choose Occidental or Harvey Mudd even if they are in CA. Also, part of an education is going beyond what is familiar. UW is in your (and my) backyard, so it is not much of a stretch socially or culturally.</p>

<p>As for USC, it's a great school and falls between UW and the two LACs in terms of size. It is also well-endowed so you generally get better facilities than state schools in general. For the most part, USC (and the LACs guarentee to meet need for financial aid purposes, so that might be an important consideration as well), while UW does not guarentee to meet your need.</p>

<p>Again, I would study the aid packages from each school and decide on how important the aid will be in relation to what you believe you'll get. Remember that college is more than just class work. Look at social, cultural, and personal enviornment as well. Many of us forget to do this for various reasons.</p>

<p>For instance, Harvey Mudd is part of a larger conglomerate of colleges: Pomona, Scripps, Pitzer, and Claremont McKenna. You'll be able to take classes at the different colleges, as well as at the Claremont Graduate School. Collectively, the size is about what a small-to-Medium sized university would be in terms of student population. Almost the best of both worlds.</p>

<p>Again, just figure out whether a small or large school is a better fit for you, then go from there. Most other choices will stem from there. Just be honest with yourself and you'll be happy at the school you decide on.</p>

<p>Just my opinion.
IB</p>

<p>PS--Running Start is a cool program, but it might lead you to make a choice that is not as well suited for your personality. I know it's hard, but think about where you will be happy first. As for med school....you'll be able to apply to UW as an in-state applicant--as you do not automatically give up residency when you go away to college out-of-state. The in-state classification depends on where your parents live, who supports you, where you're registered to vote, etc...Most public schools will only reclassify you if you move to the state for reasons other than to attend school. Also, you need to work and not go to school for a year to even be considered an in-state student somewhere other than in Washington. So, even if you went to...say...Occidental, for med school, you'd apply as an in-state resident at the University of Washington.</p>

<p>if you don't mind getting your ass kicked, go to mudd.</p>

<p>I would go to USC for the overall college experience.</p>

<p>If you want hardcore engineering, then go to Mudd.</p>

<p>It is hard to argue against UW, particularly for premed, however, there is something to be said for experiencing a new environment.</p>

<p>thanks for the replys, it has provided much insight.</p>

<p>i have heard that many pre-med programs filter students out by GPA initially. if i were to go to mudd, i most likely would not leave with a very high GPA. Would this make the medical pathway more difficult? However, if i were to go to mudd i dont think medical would be my choice pathway.</p>

<p>does UW having a good medical school say anything about its pre-med program? I have been asking around a lot recently and not come up with too many answers regarding pre-med.</p>

<p>will USC being in the big city and a big time university be able to provide more internships and research opportunities for me?</p>

<p>does anyone know where i can find the placement rates of pre-med students out of specific schools and into medical schools?</p>

<p>-thanks all</p>

<p>USC has a very close knit alum situation so i doubt that interships would be difficult.</p>

<p>if you want pre-med...do not go to Mudd because it is hard as hell and it focuses on engineering and physics rather than biology.</p>

<p>if you want straight engineering/mathematics, Mudd is great but if you want to keep med school possible, id say USC.</p>

<p>Occidental</p>

<p>UW has a very good pre-med program, although since it is a large school, you need to be sure to be self-motivated.</p>

<p>As for a Mudd gpa, the grad schools make adjustments/are aware that it is harder than many other undergrad programs.</p>

<p>Admission rates for those coming out of premed programs can be a little misleading. Often, many who would not have a high likelihood of acceptance because of GPA or other reasons self-select themselves out of the pool.</p>

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<p>is the admittance rate at occidental 445/5300 or 8%?!?!</p>

<p>just curious. thanks for all of the replys. i will probbaly go visit LA and those 3 colleges over my break and make my decision after i see them. dont let the advice stop though im loving every reply. thanks a ton</p>

<p>Most colleges send out more acceptances because they know that more than half will turn them down. I'm guessing that they sent out something like 1500 acceptances to guarentee that they have 445 first-years in the fall. I think only a few schools have an over 70% yeild (that is those accepted that do attend),</p>

<p>1500/5300 is still like 28%. Awesome job. Congrats!</p>

<p>IB</p>

<p>IsleBoy - What an insightful, thorough response you gave to Whitepete. You are definitely mature beyond your years. Your remarks that "... if you enjoy the college or university community, including the academics, the more likely you are to do well over the course of your undergrad years." Truer words were never said.</p>

<p>Lonestardad:</p>

<p>Thank you for the kind words. :)</p>

<p>It just surprises me when we throw out what we know hoping that what comes after it will always be amazing. It's to yourself be true. I've lived 18-years knowing myself but, I must admit, I was tempted to listen to the pull of prestige and name recognition. That passed, so I've been somewhat lucky.</p>

<p>About the mature part, I still have my moments (thankfully, I'm learning to catch them before I look like a...ummmm...idiot). Just ask my parents. :)</p>

<p>UW Med School takes surprisingly few UW undergrads. It may even have a bias which is hard to understand.</p>

<p>"UW Med School takes surprisingly few UW undergrads. It may even have a bias which is hard to understand."</p>

<p>this is what i have heard as well, it is hard to understand, but are there things i could do to to help? Wouldnt i be able to get to know people in the program with internships and such? I also had a pretty bad foot injury last year and met the greatest dr. ive had. he went to UW med school would i be able to milk this for any points in the admission or should i just use him for advice as well?</p>

<p>..if only there was a correct college</p>