<p>In the article, it states, “Asian-Americans vote mostly liberal…”</p>
<p>Curious as to why that is, given the issues discussed here.</p>
<p>Re: #201</p>
<p>The social conservatism that is associated with the political right in general is often seen as being unfriendly to “outsider” groups (e.g. immigrants, non-whites, non-Protestants and especially non-Christians, as “outsiders” relative to the core of the social conservatives), even if some of the espoused values may be popular among these same groups.</p>
<p>Also, the Asian American population is younger and more urban, which tends to be associated with political left voting patterns.</p>
<p>Also, while people tend to see the argument of this thread as an Asian vs. URM one, many Asian people also see it as an Asian vs. white one – i.e. they are suspicious that Asian applicants are disfavored in college admissions to allow more white (as well as URM) applicants in (and there are a lot more white applicants and admits than URM applicants and admits). So this issue is not necessarily one that the political right automatically gains Asian support on.</p>
<p>Re: #201 & #202</p>
<h1>202 is an excellent answer to #201. Personally I never voted republican in my 30 yrs in this country (a babyboomer) because of the “social conservatism that is associated with the political right” among other things. But over time I realize that the liberal policies are not necessarily good for asian americans: affirmative action (in college admission), healthcare deform - obamacare – (asian americans are more in the provider side as doctors and small business owners, and due to obamacare, asian americans lose that one industry in which they have comparative edge – hard working and good brain --to fulfill their ‘american dream’. Note that asians are very poorly represented in other industries such as professional sports industry, entertainment industry – the two industries which have as many hispanics and blacks as whites – poor representations in politics, legal, and financial industries. Perhaps Asians now need to become much more ‘entrepreneurial’ to fulfill their american dream). I was disillusioned by what Obama is not and by what he has done. Agree a lot with what Richard Cohen says in his column “The president who seems not to care” but I won’t be voting for him again.</h1>
<p>[Richard</a> Cohen: Obama, the president who seems not to care - The Washington Post](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-obama-the-president-who-seems-not-to-care/2012/10/29/a52246a0-21e2-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html?hpid=z5]Richard”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-obama-the-president-who-seems-not-to-care/2012/10/29/a52246a0-21e2-11e2-ac85-e669876c6a24_story.html?hpid=z5)</p>
<p>I agree with #202 in that the college admission practices suppress asian american applicants in favor of both whites and URM’s (they use affirmative action as a legalized discriminating tool, and the legacy admission makes things only worse for asian applicants.) The artificial putdown on asians to create rooms for others including whites and URMs. It is easy to see if you look at the UC’s and colleges which use race-blind merit-based admission policy.</p>
<p>Look at the video in this link about the economic contribution by asian americans.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1314306-true-there-40-50-acceptance-rate-2400ers-8.html#post14553890[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/harvard-university/1314306-true-there-40-50-acceptance-rate-2400ers-8.html#post14553890</a></p>
<p>Well toughyear, you’ll have four more years of policies you aren’t fond of. The people have spoken apparently.</p>
<p>Over 70% of Asian voters voted for the candidate that toughyear said s/he won’t vote for. Also over 70% of Latino voters and over 90% of black voters. It is likely that members of all of these groups saw the other candidate’s party’s social conservatism as being unfriendly to them, among perhaps other things. That the other candidate and his party appeared to be most interested in the economic interests of the top 0.1% income may have given some of the top 10%/5%/1% income pause as well.</p>
<p>I guess it depends on where you get your news and what you choose to believe. Apparently, issues like race in admissions and affirmative action aren’t deal breakers by any means. As a lower/middle income family representative, I find this all very enlightening!</p>
<p>I am guyanese, however on the common app, the way that my race is catagorized, is black-hispanic. However, I am also considered asian-indian. Which should i use.</p>
<p>black-hispanic</p>
<p>You can check all that apply.</p>
<p>But you’d be most benefitted by selecting black-hispanic.</p>
<p>Students most benefit by being wonderful human beings who have worked
hard and excelled as best as they can given their unique circumstances. Colleges and society do not benefit when one group of people dominates overall or when any group feels it must dominate or be the majority in a community of Americans because its members are “better,” “smarter,” etc. Or maybe it’s just that “other” members of society don’t matter to them.</p>
<p>Not clear what you’re trying to say.</p>
<p>sbjdorlo wrote:
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<p>four more years … well,
This issue only matters to families with high school kids which is probably a small minority. So, this can be hardly a voting issue. As a reaction though the court may decide against the UT system in a stronger form in anticipation to the court becoming more liberal during BO’s term.</p>
<p>My bestfriend is asian-american and he is really nice dude but when I see UC Berkeley’s acceptance rate statistic, I felt so bad. I said to myself “Man, You have no chance to get in this dream school”. I am an international student at CCC. Why asian - americans acceptance rate is highest rate any other ethnicity ? It is very interesting because we are (international students) paying TRIPLE tuition but schools have SO LIMITED seats for us. It is very painful…</p>
<p>Obviously, it is quite DISCRIMINATION !</p>
<p>Two quick sources;</p>
<p>[Freshman</a> admission data 2012-13](<a href=“http://newscenter.berkeley.edu/2012/04/17/freshman-admission-data-2012-13/]Freshman”>Freshman admission data 2012-13 | Berkeley News)</p>
<p>[The</a> New York Times > Education > Image > East Meets West](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2007/01/07/education/edlife/07asian-graphic.html]The”>The New York Times > Education > Image > East Meets West)</p>
<p>I agree with violinpiano and toughyear.</p>
<p>dude23 Would Asian stats be equivalent to that of whites, if Asians produced the same percentage of developmental and athletic hooks as whites?</p>
<p>One has to be careful with overall campus admission stats, since admissions selectivity can vary by division or major at many schools. To the extent that applicants of some ethnic backgrounds may apply preferentially to more selective divisions or majors, that can skew admission rates.</p>
<p>“The United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit ruled, 8 to 7, on Thursday that Michigans voter-approved 2006 ban on affirmative action was unconstitutional.
The ruling, in Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action v. University of Michigan, was not based on racial discrimination, but rather on a violation of the 14th Amendments guarantee of equal protection. The ban, the court said, unfairly placed a special burden on supporters of race-conscious admissions policies.”
[Michigan?s</a> Affirmative Action Ban Is Ruled Unconstitutional - NYTimes.com](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/16/education/michigans-affirmative-action-ban-is-ruled-unconstitutional.html]Michigan?s”>Michigan’s Affirmative Action Ban Is Ruled Unconstitutional - The New York Times)</p>
<p>74-page(!) opinion here
<a href=“http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0386p-06.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/12a0386p-06.pdf</a></p>
<p>From the same article,</p>
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<p>okay im Egyptian(yes i know thats considered “white”) but can i check off black because it will give me an edge on college admissions? is this legal? sorry for being redundant</p>