<p>“Asian-American students who enrolled at Duke University in Durham, North Carolina in 2001 and 2002 scored 1457 out of 1600 on the math and reading portion of the SAT, compared to 1416 for whites, 1347 for Hispanics and 1275 for blacks, according to a 2011 study co-authored by Duke economist Peter Arcidiacono.” </p>
<p>[Harvard</a> Targeted in U.S. Asian-American Discrimination Probe - Bloomberg](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>
<p>Caltech ftw</p>
<p>Why was this thread started anyway? It’s obviously just going to end up starting a debate.
Nobody is entitled to go to college. Colleges, for whatever reason, like diversity (be it racial,geographical, or economical). So if they want to achieve it, whatever. That’s why hollistic admissions exist. Again, I expect this program to die out soon anyway.</p>
<p>^^^ It would be nice to go a day without the poor Asian whine song. BTW since many Asians are opting out of race classification. Do we really know how many Asians are being admitted? I suspect the numbers are much higher than being reported. GL claiming discrimination based on overrepresentation.</p>
<p>CC has a separate thread for this.</p>
<p>“It would be nice to go a day without the poor Asian whine song” So when Mexicans and African Americans do city wide protests for the smallest things it’s called discrimination but if a Asian cries discrimination on a actual thing it’s called whining, oh dear god not a another city wide Asian protest, damn it.</p>
<p>What would the “smallest things” be? I’m curious…</p>
<p>In the rage of the moment I might have used city wide protests loosely but im talking about protests like this [Activists</a> protest NY Times for using ‘illegal immigrant’ | The Daily Caller](<a href=“Activists protest New York Times for using the term ‘illegal immigrant’ | The Daily Caller”>Activists protest New York Times for using the term ‘illegal immigrant’ | The Daily Caller) </p>
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<p>Ah I understand. Alrighty then. I was just making sure you didn’t mean something that I thought you might have meant. Blacks and Latinos are not prone to “rioting” whenever something doesn’t go their way though.</p>
<p>I’m guessing you meant the Zimmerman case and yeah I do think that those protests where warranted since that was clear discrimination.</p>
<p>I actually wasn’t talking about the Zimmerman case :D. (which I thought was appropriate, if done for the right reasons. Not because of the verdict, but because of profiling)</p>
<p>I was literally puzzled, and thought I had missed out on some riot.
So I wanted to know what you considered a “smallest thing”.</p>
<p>The only protests that actually p*ss me off are the ones like the NYTimes one I posted about and Al Sharpton protests, theirs some things the African american community should be protesting(because in some parts of the US their is still clear discrimination against them)and then theirs what I like to call Al Sharpton Protests, which just make me sigh</p>
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Umm… I believe you just answered your own question?</p>
<p>This conversation is going to deteriorate real fast with no real benefit.</p>
<p>I don’t believe people should have a special advantage in college admissions just because they were born with more privilege than other applicants, and I believe the only way to avoid that is for colleges to take into account what resources were available to each student and what kind of disadvantages they had, if any. This will help put their accomplishments into the right context so they aren’t being compared to people who were born into a better life. Sometimes race/sex will play into this, and sometimes it won’t.</p>
<p>I agree with the concept of AA in theory, but I absolutely don’t like the way it is used and carried out today.</p>
<p>“Race” without context should not be a factor in college admissions. At all. Period. </p>
<p>The idea of affirmative action is to account for the social disadvantages that many minorities face (a lack of money and resources, worse schools, historic discrimination). That’s fine, but the reality is that it’s not that cut and dry.</p>
<p>For example, people identifying themselves as “white” make up nearly the same percentage of welfare recipients as people identifying themselves as “black.” </p>
<p>In what kind of world does it make sense that a well-to-do African American student should get some sort of advantage or preference in college admissions over a poor white student (or Asian, etc.)? What “diversity” does this student really add to the mix?</p>
<p>If proponents of AA were truly just in it make up for the disadvantages that poor students face, they would fully support a system based on income and other tangible factors that directly play into academic and social success. Unfortunately, they do not like this idea because it won’t help enough of the minorities they “like.”</p>
<p>I don’t care much about affirmative action, but one point I saw brought up is affirmative action based on income-I could not agree more with this. Colleges should be doing more for high-achieving, low-income students.</p>
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<p>Let’s see. One side is protesting loss of life and brutality. The other is protesting a SAT score? Yeah, I’d call that whining. Do Asians remember what real discrimination was like? If not I wish the elders would remind them about it. </p>
<p>Here’s a reminder: </p>
<p>Real discrimination-YOU CANT GO HERE. </p>
<p>No discrimination: WELCOME, WE LIKE YOU. WE’RE GOING TO ACCEPT A LOT OF YOU!</p>
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<p>I think you’ve grossly misunderstood [what</a> this thread advocated in terms of test preparation](<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/68210-xiggis-sat-prep-advice.html]what”>Xiggi's SAT prep advice - SAT Preparation - College Confidential Forums) and then used your prejudice against Asians to insinuate that Asians’ scores are due to their memorizing which boxes to bubble.</p>
<p>Lest we forget:</p>
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<p>[url=<a href=“Sikhspectrum - Die beste Abfahrt in den Alpen”>Sikhspectrum - Die beste Abfahrt in den Alpen]Social</a> and Political Lives of Early Sikh Settlers in California: 1897-1946 | Sikh Spectrum](<a href=“http://www.du.edu/behindbarbedwire/history.html]History[/url”>History)</p>