<p>Well my 1/8th Cherokee classmate identified as one, and he’s going to Harvard…Meh</p>
<p>I don’t think it’s about numbers but rather how you self identify which culture you associate yourself with.</p>
<p>You need to be registered with a tribe.</p>
<p>Anyone else? Has an admission officer ever said anything on this?</p>
<p>If someone has, say, 1/8 (maybe 1/16) of native american, and the culture has had a significant impact on his life (my parents told me tribal bedtime stories as a kid, things like that), what would Ivy Leagues think of this?</p>
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<p>Private colleges are not bound by the civil rights initiatives that have passed in California, Washington, Michigan, and Nebraska. If you’re asking whether those states’ public universities “secretly” practice affirmative action, then unfortunately your question is very difficult to answer, as admissions officers from those universities would have to admit that they violate state law.</p>
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<p>It depends exactly what the nature of the ban is, and exactly what kind of taking into account is done. But I wouldn’t count on it, in that legal environment.</p>
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<p>That is not strictly required by the federal definitions. What each college does to decide who (if anyone) gets special consideration in admissions as an American Indian is in part up to the college. Some colleges appear routinely to ask about tribal registration, but that may not be routine practice at all colleges.</p>
<p>Mexican-American, low-income/working class family, 3.86 GPA, top 10% in my class, top 98% on math SAT, low score on the verbal SAT (I entered high school not knowing English, so I was allowed to take the test of English as a foreign language), only a few AP classes, some academic recognitions, very poor extracurricular activities. I applied to three Top 10 schools (rejected), one Top 30 school (accepted), two Top 40 schools (accepted) and one Top 50 school (accepted). Given all the red flags on my resume, especially a pathetically low verbal SAT score and weak extracurricular activities, how much of a role do you think AA played in my being accepted to the schools that I was accepted to?</p>
<p>^ That’s hard to say. Some top-50 (depending on how one defines the “top 50” list) colleges would take in a person of any ethnicity with the raw numbers you mention, since learning English as a second language late in childhood would adequately explain a low SAT critical reading score and partially explain low high school grades. Some applicants with some major interests can help themselves a lot by identifying colleges that </p>
<p>a) are strong in their major area, even if not prestigious in all other respects, </p>
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<p>b) accustomed to admitting largely “by the numbers,” </p>
<p>if the applicant has adequate numbers. A top decile in the high school class and 98th percentile on the SAT math section is a good start at a competitive application at such a college for a student from a low-income family.</p>
<p>tokenadult, which are some of the better colleges that are accustomed to admitting largely “by the numbers”?</p>
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<p>Many of the state flagship universities largely operate that way, even when they claim to practice “holistic admission.” (That is, the numbers can get you in, period, and sometimes a reasonable explanation can get you in even without the numbers, as in the case of a second-language learner of English). Some of those universities are genuinely “top” for various disciplines, especially engineering disciplines. Most offer some good opportunities to in-state applicants, and sometimes to out-of-state applicants too.</p>
<p>“Many of the state flagship universities largely operate that way, even when they claim to practice “holistic admission.” (That is, the numbers can get you in, period, and sometimes a reasonable explanation can get you in even without the numbers, as in the case of a second-language learner of English).”</p>
<p>It seems that the best schools I could have been legitimately accepted to would have accepted me even with an average or below average GPA. I wasted my time studying hard in high school to maintain a 3.86 GPA, didn’t I? </p>
<p>"Some of those universities are genuinely “top” for various disciplines, especially engineering disciplines. Most offer some good opportunities to in-state applicants, and sometimes to out-of-state applicants too. "</p>
<p>tokenadult, some of the universities I was accepted to are private liberal arts schools. AA definitely largely helped me, right?</p>
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<p>Not at all, if those study habits carry over into college and help you thrive there. Not everyone who is admitted to college graduates, and not all who graduate from college took full advantage of college learning opportunities. </p>
<p>My son wasn’t shopping for liberal arts colleges, at all, in the most recent admission round, so I don’t have a sense of how competitive and in what way some of those colleges are. I express no opinion on what admission profile would like appealing to a liberal arts college that is plainly “top 50” but not “top 10.” </p>
<p>Enjoy your college studies.</p>
<p>Being an Asian, I already feel that I am over represented minority. They keep asking so many qns related to me, and my parents. When you apply for a job, disclosing race is an option. Is this constitutionally correct to probe about our ethnic background. What if I refuse to furnish it?</p>
<p>I just read about the Jennifer Gratz’s law suite against U of Michigan. The Supreme Court did not favor Jennifer. I wish they acted differently.</p>
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<p>Who the heck needs diversity in colleges? if so, why we have HBCU? If we need diversity break the barriers of HBCU.</p>
<p>Or dedicate colleges for talented Asians alone. LOL!</p>
<p>No barriers in HBCU. Go there if you want to.</p>
<p>Most of the top schools that this is an issue at are Private, and choose to have diversity, just as HBCUs choose to favor Black students.</p>
<p>But it looks like in the specific case you posted, the Court decided against Michigan and for the students, saying that they were not allowed to automatically add points for URMs.</p>
<p>I just hate it when people try hard but end up being viewed as a
“typican Asian.”</p>
<p>French, Tennis, Key Club, Piano, Violin…</p>
<p>Now ethnic profiling?
That’s just sad.</p>
<p>I think that I’m going to put “Other” for ethnicity, when the time comes.</p>
<p>Just because I feel like the world’s view of ethnicity include culture, not just what you look like.</p>
<p>So even though I am Asian, I was adopted and grew up in a completely different culture. Like me getting into tennis, piano, guitar, and being good at school and Asians doing most of that is completely accidental. (You know what I mean?)</p>
<p>You don’t have to list your race. You can hit other, and most of these forms are optional response.</p>
<p>The voluminous errors in this statement are remarkable “if so, why we have HBCU? If we need diversity break the barriers of HBCU.”</p>
<p>I’m Chinese, attended an HYP without stellar SAT or GPA, and am embarrassed at this thinking and dearth of information.</p>
<p>BTW: some colleges ask for parents’ education and career for holistic evaluation purposes. A kid w/o a father, whose mother is a maid, grows up in a barrio and gets a 32 on the ACT is viewed differently than the kid whose dad is a bank executive, mom is homemaker, family income is $300K and scores 32 ACT – got it?</p>
<p>Maybe your vomiting urges may be subdued if you would step back and look at the broader situations besides your own.</p>
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