<p>I’m not saying I wouldn’t contribute. However, it shouldn’t be the governments place. Private charity is much more effective anyway. </p>
<p>Stop acting like you have an inherent RIGHT to anyone else’s money. Go make your own.</p>
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<p>Wow. Just wow. You have gained more from the efforts of our forefathers, so of course you owe them more.</p>
<p>As for the bigotry and stereotyping of welfare, it’s entirely unacceptable in this forum. Do you honestly believe someone accepted to an Ivy League college is stupid and pregnant?</p>
<p>bicoastal07: That covers only income tax, not the other (and substantial) taxes paid for social security and medicare, which both use a regressive tax system.</p>
<p>“You can see the details in Table 1. For the 2006 tax year, the top 1% of taxpayers paid 39.9% of all income taxes. The top 5% paid 60.1% of all income taxes.”</p>
<p>Anyone can play with numbers and the right wing extremists like to publish lots of self aggrandizing propaganda. Of course they seem to leave out the tax loopholes that comes in form of “business” expenses and tax shelters. Personal income tax are only a small portion of their taxable assets. So again lets stop lying to folks.</p>
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<p>You act so defensive, as though people are literally trying to steal your money.</p>
<p>Fine, you have no RIGHT to: a) roads b) energy c) water. Without the taxes you (and I) pay, we wouldn’t have any of those services. Please try to get by without them.</p>
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I do. I’m not on welfare, food stamps, or anything else.</p>
<p>"lol, from asian americans to capitalism v. socialism "</p>
<p>It’s actually just a symptom for very divergent strains of thought if you make the connections it makes sense. And it is not just about “asian americans” it is about fairness and equality.</p>
<p>Indeed. You’ll find that most people who fiercely oppose affirmative action and financial aid are right-wing extremists.</p>
<p>On another note, most of the country is liberal, but from looking at CC you wouldn’t know it… awfully annoying to hear ideological spew in such random threads.</p>
<p>"Anyone can play with numbers and the right wing extremists like to publish lots of self aggrandizing propaganda. Of course they seem to leave out the tax loopholes that comes in form of “business” expenses and tax shelters. Personal income tax are only a small portion of their taxable assets. So again lets stop lying to folks. "</p>
<p>You’re right, anyone that’s right winged is a liar, and publishes lies. Everyone is out to get you.</p>
<p>“Stop acting like you have an inherent RIGHT to anyone else’s money. Go make your own.”</p>
<p>I don’t need your money, I have enough of my own. But I am also not the type of individual who is greedy and hordes as much as I can. I could have very easily taken opportunities to make much more money than I have made, but unlike the greed mongers, I realize that enough is enough. </p>
<p>I cannot justify morally or as a decent human being buying a luxury car or hording cash when 1) I have enough to fulfill basic needs (and then some) and 2) others are suffering.</p>
<p>ESPECIALLY when we do not have equality for everyone to have equal access to earn what they deserve based on their hard work. Call me crazy, (I am sure an extremist like Ayn Rand would) but I actually care about other human beings.</p>
<p>“On another note, most of the country is liberal”</p>
<p>Break down race and class status, and see who is liberal. </p>
<p>It’s also “amusing” that africans americans tend to lean towards the democratic side, the side who once enslaved them. How is that for unfair treatment of minorities?</p>
<p>Okay, fine you’re perfect, a saint even. That doesn’t mean everyone else has to be. No one should feel guilty about making money, and keeping it. Why do you think people want money, it’s important. If someone wants a jet and has earned the money, they should feel no guilt about buying one just becuase others can’t afford it.</p>
<p>"You’re right, anyone that’s right winged is a liar, and publishes lies. Everyone is out to get you. "</p>
<p>I am not nearly as paranoid as Rush, Sean or Ayn. Don’t mistake the truth for paranoia. </p>
<p>“On another note, most of the country is liberal, but from looking at CC you wouldn’t know it… awfully annoying to hear ideological spew in such random threads.”</p>
<p>You know I joined a while ago but only have been on recently as I have been doing work with students who are applying and I have noticed this. It is a bit surprising because a majority of people in education are liberal leaning and the more education someone has the more likely they are to vote democrat (not that I define democrats as being “left” or particularly liberal). It makes me wonder if this ideological tilt is coming from the top down.</p>
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<p>Wow. You really don’t know anything about our country’s history, do you?</p>
<p>The modern Democratic party is entirely different from the pre-civil war Democratic party. Republicans used to be liberal…</p>
<p>Democrats won the support of African Americans by championing civil rights reforms and supporting class equity.</p>
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<p>I hope it’s just 1 or 2 nutjobs, not too many. CC is a great place and I wouldn’t want to see it spoiled by ideological idiocy.</p>
<p>“It’s also “amusing” that africans americans tend to lean towards the democratic side, the side who once enslaved them. How is that for unfair treatment of minorities?”</p>
<p>Yeah and white supremacists in the south used to be democrats, so what is your point? Only someone completely ignorant of US history would make such a pathetic argument.</p>
<p>“Okay, fine you’re perfect, a saint even. That doesn’t mean everyone else has to be. No one should feel guilty about making money, and keeping it. Why do you think people want money, it’s important. If someone wants a jet and has earned the money, they should feel no guilt about buying one just becuase others can’t afford it.”</p>
<p>I am nowhere near being a “saint” and nor would I want to be. What I am is a human being and not a drone enslaved by the need to consume conspicuously. I am secure enough in myself to not think that meaningless and useless products make me more human. And yeah that is a judgment call. If someone is starving and you can live with yourself by consuming what you don’t need than you are certainly more heartless than I can ever be. I guess that makes me weak right? I’ll take it.</p>
<p>What is the goal of “diversity” in admissions?</p>
<p>The goal is not primarily to correct a social injustice, but to improve the quality of education for everyone by putting together a balanced, interesting class of students. Colleges don’t want to accept too many white kids, too many Asians, too many New Yorkers, or too many graduates of top New England boarding schools. If we had a pure merit system based solely on test performance, as almost every other advanced country does, many people (including some wealthy white families) would be very unhappy with the outcomes. </p>
<p>Our “holistic” admissions system reflects American social values, not just a liberal reform agenda. In education, as in government and business, Americans tend to value not only intellectual ability, but a slew of other personal characteristics that come into play in the admissions decision.</p>
<p>Alright let’s understand a few basic principles…</p>
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<li>Affirmative action is wrong. </li>
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<p>There is no morally justifiable reason for accepting students beyond their own merit and capabilities. If an institution truly wishes to produce the best product i.e. and educated student then they should only use the best raw materials. Affirmative action is done in the name of “diversity”- and what has this produced? Do I as an administrator gain anything of value from a student that happens to be white, black, Asian or female? Intrinsically- no. It’s the character and skills that a student possesses that makes them important- not their background.</p>
<p>If a school’s objective is to create the most intelligent and innovative student body, then they will find the most capable students- regardless of other factors. </p>
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<li>Need based financial aid is treason to the gifted.</li>
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<p>If our educational system whishes to regain its once illustrious stature- then we must no longer use “need” as our standard. Private institutions may conduct their policies however they wish, but they must realize the consequences of their actions.</p>
<p>"1. Affirmative action is wrong.</p>
<p>There is no morally justifiable reason for accepting students beyond their own merit and capabilities. If an institution truly wishes to produce the best product i.e. and educated student then they should only use the best raw materials. Affirmative action is done in the name of “diversity”- and what has this produced? Do I as an administrator gain anything of value from a student that happens to be white, black, Asian or female? Intrinsically- no. It’s the character and skills that a student possesses that makes them important- not their background."</p>
<p>When you understand a real definition of affirmative action as opposed to your own version, your argument might be enhanced. See my previous posts as a way to understand its definition.</p>
<p>Way to make onerous ultimatums without any evidence!</p>
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I don’t agree. Diversity allows a variety of viewpoints, which advances EVERYONE’s understanding.</p>
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First off, you need to look up the meaning of treason. For many people, college is prohibitively expensive. Without financial aid, we finance a modern oligarchy of the rich.</p>
<p>And when you understand that affirmative action does not exist solely to serve the colleges best interests but also the students’ best interests.</p>
<p>and that the whole idea of America being a meritocracy is a sham. </p>
<p>and for kmhuether (& others) - and educated and important voice from someone of the opposite spectrum of Ayn Rand. Please read with an open mind – how you would like us to read Ayn Rand: [White</a> Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack by Peggy McIntosh](<a href=“http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html]White”>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/files/mcintosh.html)</p>
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<p>This question was merged into the existing FAQ and discussion thread on the general subject of consideration of race or ethnicity in college admission. Read the first few posts in this thread, which are FAQ posts, and follow the links to get current information about what the law is and what colleges report about their own practices to the federal government.</p>
<p>And the privilege backpack comes out! I was wondering if anyone would cite that. Let me just say that as a student of color, I still oppose affirmative action on moral grounds. Not all opponents of AA are white; nor do we all have the same reasons for our opposition.</p>