<p>Looking at your stats, I have no doubt that you were admitted on stats rather than AA. I would be interested, however, to see how many admitted URMs would not have been admitted without AA, but I don’t think there would really be any way to tell.</p>
<p>It seems to me that the AA debate is just another cop-out for prestige-hungry Ivy-mongers to further emphasize their entitlement to a top flight education. </p>
<p>Can you say, crapshoot for everyone?</p>
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<p>Says who? I might. I certainly wouldn’t quibble with anyone who has a parent from Spain calling himself Hispanic, because the words “Hispanic” and “Spain” come from the same root.</p>
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<p>Just merged into the main FAQ and discussion thread for the perspective from one applicant that this offers to the discussion.</p>
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<p>Then you shouldn’t object to the white guy who calls himself African-American. I wouldn’t recommend using the “same root” argument in any formal discourse.</p>
<p>The terms have federal definitions, which I’ve referred to in the thread-opening posts. Look them up.</p>
<p>Right, it’s about the federal definitions, not about the literal meanings or derivations; that argument doesn’t hold up.</p>
<p>You have eternal patience, tokenadult, when it comes to correcting people’s “definitions.”</p>
<p>I am not sure if this is the correct thread for this question but it concerns the “Demographics” section of the new Common Application. If someone is half Philippine and half American (Caucasion), should that person be listed under the “Asian (including Indian subcontinent and Philippines)” section? Her high school transcripts have her listed as Asian. An Asian-American choice would make the most sense but it does not exist. Is this a matter of personal choice, or self identify, or are there parameters? I don’t know if the new Common App has any specific guidelines. I apologize if this was addressed in any of the previous posts but I could not get through them all. Thanks for any feedback!</p>
<p>^ You can decline to self-identify at all, or you may check both the Asian and Caucasian boxes.</p>
<p>^ Keilexandra, thank you for the feedback. Would it be acceptable for her to list only the Asian section, to keep it consistent with her high school transcript, or would she need to list both Asian and Caucasion? She self identifies as Asian but I want to make sure that I am following the rules on this. Thanks again</p>
<p>The new instructions say “choose one or more” in front of the “race” section, in most cases. (That’s the preferred language, according to the federal regulations.) You can see that on the draft of the forthcoming Common Application. </p>
<p><a href=“https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/2009-10CommonApp_highlightedUpdates.pdf[/url]”>https://www.commonapp.org/CommonApp/Docs/2009-10CommonApp_highlightedUpdates.pdf</a></p>
<p>“Or more,” so I’d think if she self-identifies as solely Asian, it’s fine to just put that down. But if you’re worried about mismatch, don’t be–colleges understand that a lot of paperwork doesn’t provide for multiracial.</p>
<p>I’m sorry if this question has been asked before, but bascially, what should I indentify as? I’m half Caucasian, and half Chinese, but I don’t quite feel like either. I don’t speak Mandarin, and all my relatives still live in China, so we’re not close. However, my mom is very much Chinese (she immigrated here ~20 years ago), and I must have a lot of influences from Asian culture. We’re not close to my Dad’s side of the family either, because we moved so far away from them when I was little. Where I live, there is very little Asian or White population. Mostly I don’t know what I indentify as, and I don’t feel like any particular race. I don’t know what to do here…should I mark both, even though I feel like neither? Other (is this still an option)? Or decline to identify?</p>
<p>"Where I live, there is very little Asian or White population. "</p>
<p>Just curious… what IS there?</p>
<p>Latino </p>
<p>Asian is like 2%, white like 15% (but I don’t have any white friends)</p>
<p>^So like 80 percent Latino? For the whole city or your school? That’s interesting to think about. I could be wrong, but I didn’t think there was anywhere even in California with that demographic. of course I don’t know much about other “border” states.</p>
<p>BTW, I think you should mark both. Who knows what this data will be used for down the road?</p>
<p>Probably a little less (60-70ish), because there’s a signifigant Filipino population as well. Just for my school, but other schools in my district have as high as 80 percent Latino. And no, it’s not completely like that in the county/city I live in, my school has a higher percentage.</p>
<p>Ah… that makes sense…so I’m guessing you don’t consider Filipino Asian?</p>
<p>I looked up the demographics of the most diverse city near me. Interestingly, they divide it into Hispanic and everybody else, then divide up everybody else. I also noticed they list Filipino, but Asians" must be lumped with “other”. I also see Hispanic is also included in the non Hispanic data… hmmm… better find another source.</p>
<p>Hispanic or Latino, any race 17.08 %</p>
<p>Not Hispanic or Latino 82.92 %</p>
<p>TOTAL</p>
<p>100.0 %</p>
<p>Non-Hispanic by Race</p>
<p>White 32.89%</p>
<p>Black 23.60%</p>
<p>Hispaniic 19.01%</p>
<p>Filipino 21.26%</p>
<p>Other 3.24%</p>
<p>Total</p>
<p>100.00%</p>
<p>I checked other sources. Equally confusing. Apparently because there are so many mixes around here. A whole demographic broken down like “hispanic and ______”.</p>
<p>I don’t really know, they could either be Asian or maybe Pacific Islander? Mostly they refer to themselves as Asian. I just said that because they always put Filipino separately from Asian on the population demographics at my school. They do have a certain amount in common with Asian culture, but I think influenced by a lot of other cultures as well.
There are really barely any East Asians at my school though, and not a single Chinese person.
I don’t really care that much though, I disagree with the whole “We’re Asian, so let’s stick together” idea.</p>