<p>“We cannot cure a past injustice with another injustice”.
-Alan Keyes. </p>
<p>It patronizes minorities and women. The best person should get the job/college acceptance. Bottom line, IMO. </p>
<p>I wouldn’t mind a socioeconomic action or whatever they would call it. Some kid who lives in the projects with parents making 20k gets a little boost over some kid whose parents make 200k+.</p>
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<p>You’re turning the issue around on its heels in order to counter for no better argument. The simple fact is that African Americans are presently at a disadvantage because it is more difficult to go from rags-to-riches, even if for you that just means going to a good college or getting a good steady job. Until very recently blacks weren’t welcome in a single respectable university (hell, Texas A&M didn’t even start letting women in until the early '60s I think) and very few people were interested in hiring them for good jobs. There are people alive today who still remember being forced to the back of the bus and kicked out of 5-and-dime stores. We still need to affirmatively act in order to say, yes you are welcome, to the millions of African Americans that the old system succeeded in putting down.</p>
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<p>Alan Keyes is not a respectable source for quotes…sorry.</p>
<p>ALAN KEYES SPEAKS THE TRUTH!!! lol</p>
<p>YouTube - Keyes: Stop Obama or U.S. will cease to exist</p>
<p>But seriously, I don’t want anyone to be put down or raised up because of the color of their skin. Best man gets the spot. Thats how it should be anyway…</p>
<p>Obama is half white and black, he is not 100% African American. Why should people make that generalization by the way he looks? His mother was white and was the one who raised him. I don’t think he had many African Americans around him when he was younger. I don’t think what you say works here, but I do agree with the rest of your post. African Americans were at a disadvantage, are they now? No, we are just as equal today. It’s like saying Jews are at a disadvantage in Germany today. It’s the past not the present.</p>
<p>As an Asian, I really do not benefit from affirmative action as much as other minorities, but I can still see why it is used.</p>
<p>Barack Obama being elected as President is a great step for our nation, but it does not reflect the nation as a whole.</p>
<p>Anyone who has studied history knows why this policy is in place. The Civil Rights Act that ended segregation was passed in the 1960s…less than 4 decades ago. </p>
<p>You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: ‘now, you are free to go where you want, do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please.’ You do not take a man who for years has been hobbled by chains, liberate him, bring him to the starting line of a race, saying, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe you have been completely fair… This is the next and more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity—not just legal equity but human ability—not just equality as a right and a theory, but equality as a fact and as a result.</p>
<p>LBJ in the Commencement Address at Howard University on June 4, 1965 on affirmative action</p>
<p>It should be discontinued eventually, but I’m not sure if its the right time now.</p>
<p>Now that’s a great quote from a great man, LBJ.</p>
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<p>Alan Keyes is an unstable crackpot that just acts like comic relief provided by the GOP. Not to mention he’s a Republican, so there’s already something wrong wit his medula omblagata. How many states even let him run for the GOP nomination anymore? And even in those states, he doesn’t even get 1% of the vote…among Republicans, people who are already insane out their mind.</p>
<p>It was a joke, lol. </p>
<p>How are the blue states doing?</p>
<p>I don’t want to “stir the pot” again</p>
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<p>I believe that instead of “helping” minority students get into college by making the requirements lower for them, we should be helping at the elementary/middle/high school level to make sure these minority students get top grades so that they will not be in a position where they may have to be “helped” into a certain college because of their race.</p>
<p>What is your definition of minority? There are African Americans who are very wealthy and have a lot more money than white people. I don’t think it is fair if this is the case. A white person can be a minority and can be the first kid to go to college in the family. They should help the kids with less money, not the students with color. Because there are tons who are rich and are doing just fine.</p>
<p>well I think that if we help the people that need help as early as possible with teaching them the value of education and giving them the skills and tools they need to succeed (more free tutoring etc…) we will not have to worry about affirmative action.</p>
<p>look, last I looked the admissions rate at UGA was something like 75%. It isn’t like people are being kept out of their first choice school. It’s easy to say, you don’t have an AA policy (when in fact, every college receiving federal dollars has an AA policy) when virtually no one is climbing over anyone else’s body to get in.</p>
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<p>Thread merged with existing FAQ and discussion thread on “race” in college admission. It’s interesting that the discussion unfolds without even agreement on what the University of Georgia is doing.</p>
<p>As far as I can tell from a visit to UGA, there is a serious lacking in diversity on the campus. Considering the fact that many African Americans living in Georgia apply to UGA (Just Because It’s The Thing To Do), one would expect that the minority representation would be a bit more visible. </p>
<p>However, I commend UGA for reviewing applicants on things they can control (grades, extra curricular activities etc.) rather than things like skin color. I truly believe that applicants should all meet academic and leadership standards first. Then, diversity issues can be addressed.</p>
<p>The purpose of my original post was not to cause a debate about affirmative action. I was simply pointing out to those students interested in attending UGA that including identifiers such as race, gender, and ethnicity would have no bearing on there admittance. The ‘no affirmative action policy’ is something that is discussed every semester in at least one class so I know of what I speak. Perhaps factors such as hardship are taken into account, on that I have no data. Once again my intent was to merely inform those students interested in attending UGA that there was no affirmative action at this particular institution.</p>
<p>Im just wondering on your college application,
(if you are asian), does it ask for what type of “asian” you are (like chinese, japanese, korean, etc)</p>
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<p>That’s neither expected or required by the new federal regulation that takes effect for the coming admission season. There may be a few state universities that ask more detailed questions, but all subcategories have to fit the federal categories for federal reporting, which is required of all colleges. And in all college admission processes you can decline to answer the question–that’s your right under the law.</p>
<p>Where do arabs and middle-easterns stand in affirmative action practices by top colleges? Are they considered an URM or ORM?</p>
<p>If I am not mistaken Arabs and middle-eastern people are classified by the US government as ‘Caucasian’, lumped in with other white people. Although some colleges may be looking to recruit this group.</p>
<p>theyre not Caucasian…because theyre not white</p>
<p>I am not 100% sure, but I believe Arab/middle eastern is probably an over represented minority, because a very large percentage of the arab/middle eastern population in the US goes to college</p>
<p>The only URMs are Hispanics, African-Americans, and Native Americans as far as I know</p>
<p>I’m half Chinese (Mom is from Hong Kong), one quarter Caucasian (Dad’s dad is German), and one quarter Hispanic (Dad’s mom is Peruvian). What kind of URM boost should I expect to receive, if any?</p>