Racism in College

<p>... the discriminations towards Asians or Middle-Eastern people?</p>

<p>I think people forget quite often that racism targets Asians/Indians/Middle Eastern people, too, and is JUST as violent and cruel as racism targeting blacks.</p>

<p>I'm glad that you guys are reacting towards the story about the African-American student at Middlebury, but no one cares to comment about the discrimination blatantly shown toward Asians?</p>

<p>FWIW, Cornell offers voluntary segregation, in that it offers dorms that house specific minorities, those being, native americans, blacks, and mexican/hispanic.</p>

<p>I think almost all schools have segregationist options these days.</p>

<p>Whats the point of diversity if you literally squander it by sequestering students into homogenous dorms?</p>

<p>it sucks when, I, as an indian, is mistakenly assumed to be a hindu. it also sucks when indians are assumed to be arab and muslim. who woulda thought you could have a catholic indian. but hi! here i am!</p>

<p>anonymous, it pales in comparison to when people sing the oscar mayer wiener song because your name sounds very similar.</p>

<p>The Walker story could have been an honor code violation, particularly if he lied about something involved in it. On some campuses, the honor code is very important. Students take tests whenever they feel ready and with no supervision. For those colleges, the honor code is a point of pride and violations are very serious. However, I'm not jumping to any conclusions either way. </p>

<p>In general, I noticed as I read thru the "Princeton Review's Top 357 Colleges" cover to cover (too much time on my hands), that a lot of campuses report self discrimination. It is a common theme that minorities on campus have their own table in the cafeteria and things like that. I suppose that there is a level of discomfort, but actual friction between races seemed to be rare.</p>

<p>Anonymou5, is your family from Kerala?</p>

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I would say that race relations depend on two things: where you come from and where you go to school. Forget about percentages. Universities will advertise that they are diverse because *** percent of the population is black, Latino, etc. Really, that doesn't matter because a majority of the time people gravitate to their own groups anyway. I'm Mexican-American from a border town in Texas where 95% of the population looks like me and I went to school in DC where most other students had either never seen a Mexican before, didn't like them, or only knew them as the people that take orders at the McDonald's. Needless to say, when it came to race relations, while I was never physically hurt, being told that I was nothing more than the "crazy little Mexican girl" or that I would always be "nothing more than an immigrant in this country" (I'm fourth generation) wasn't exactly the best. But it did teach me a lot about people, and a lot about myself, who I am, and what I believe. They weren't great experiences, but they certainly helped me gain a greater appreciation for home.

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<p>Heh, I'm from Texas too. The MAJORITY of Texas students are hispanic, but as everyone knows there are racial cliques all over the place.</p>

<p>"In general, I noticed as I read thru the "Princeton Review's Top 357 Colleges" cover to cover (too much time on my hands), that a lot of campuses report self discrimination. It is a common theme that minorities on campus have their own table in the cafeteria and things like that."</p>

<p>There actually is a book by a psychologist called, "Why Do All of the Black Kids Sit Together in the Cafeteria" which says that research indicates that actually black students are active in a more racially diverse group of activities and have a more diverse group of friends than do white students.</p>

<p>Because blacks and some other URMs stand out because they look different than do the majority of students on mainstream campuses, people notice when they are sitting together in a group. People, however, don't notice when URMs are seated in diverse groups or are involved in mainstream activities where they are a distinct minority.</p>

<p>People also don't notice the many tables and activities (such as Greek ones) that are all white. Somehow, that's considered the norm. For some reason, people don't ask, "What's wrong with the white students for all sitting together?"</p>

<p>When I taught at a historically black college, I taught some classes that were not offered at a nearby predominantly white college. Students from both colleges could take classes at the other colleges' campus. My classes were small -- a ceiling of only 15 students, and only 2 students from the other college were allowed to take my classes.</p>

<p>They usually were white, and the first day of class, they invariably managed to sit next to each other. What was funny was that virtually all of the time, they were not previously acquainted. They'd just chosen to sit next to the person who looked the most like them.</p>

<p>How is a black dorm or a black table any more segregationist an all-female dorm or club at a co-ed school (or an all-male dorm at a predom female college)?</p>

<p>yeah hanna we're from kerala.</p>

<p>"There actually is a book by a psychologist called, "Why Do All of the Black Kids Sit Together in the Cafeteria" which says that research indicates that actually black students are active in a more racially diverse group of activities and have a more diverse group of friends than do white students."</p>

<p>Actually, is almost always all the white kids who sit together in the cafeteria - it's just the black students are left out.</p>

<p>With all due respect, when I was in college, I was on the ROTC trick drill team and we would all sit at the same table. It never really occurred to me that everyone else was sitting at other tables that we weren't allowed to sit at. In fact, I don't think anyone sitting at our table would have resulted in a friendly welcome. :)</p>

<p>Reading thru the Princeton Review Top 357 colleges does indicate a certain amount of free time, but it was interesting. Each college has two pages and the writeups are written to be as entertaining as possible. I'm certainly not recommending that anyone do it, but you pick up on certain themes that run thru groups of college : diversity, political orientation, greeks, party atmosphere, positive peer pressure, love of teachers and administration at LAC's, dislike of administration at larger schools,....</p>

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Actually, is almost always all the white kids who sit together in the cafeteria - it's just the black students are left out.

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Says you, a home-school parent. How the heck do you presume to know? In my high school days there were a handful of black kids who sat with their white friends. They were ostracized by the rest of the black kids, who opted to self-segregate.</p>

<p>Got one kid who takes "lunch" in high school. (Gotcha! ;)) </p>

<p>But if you want to understand behavior, I think it is useful to look at the behavior of the largest group first? Or would you understand American culture by looking at Muslims?</p>

<p>C'mon, the idea of "the white kids" behaving as a monolithic block is silly. There are all sorts of sub-groups within, some of them self-selecting, some (the "cool" crowd, the jocks, the hippies), exclusive. Blacks were the only significant ethnic minority group in my high school, and they self segregated for the same reason the "cool" white kids did. Group status. And they were just as petty, catty, and cruel about it.</p>

<p>race status varies far too much from school to school for all of this dumb anectdotal evidence to matter.
bottom line is, ask any sociologist, there is racism today, in schools, yes.</p>

<p>There certainly is. By all parties. And you could have made your point without calling others "dumb."</p>