<p>The kids who wrote it aren't as bad as they seem, I'm sure. But it is a stupid bad article.</p>
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<blockquote> <p>I said nothing about wanting to hang out with them. I said that they make for a more dynamic campus, which they do. I want all view-points represented when I'm at college.<<</p> </blockquote>
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<p>Okay, let me rephrase: that your prefer to hang out on a campus that is at least partially populated with borderline racists instead of dedicated students says something about you. And it may not be very flattering.</p>
<p>I think Jian Li had it coming. </p>
<p>And I don't think the article is offensive to Asians. If you read it closely, you'll notice the article doesn't mock Asians, but Li. The article focuses on Jian Li's self-evident uber-asianess/bastardized perspective of his own race, and builds on that. The writer intends the racial comments to emerge from Li's own lips.</p>
<p>Haha, exactly and that's our point I believe. A decent person wouldn't! But someone who has questionable affiliations has enough tainted morals that cheating the system wouldn't bother them too much. </p>
<p>I guess the point I'm getting at is that there will always be racists... everywhere. Even at Princeton. Except at Princeton (usually) they'd have to be a lot more clever to make sure none of their philosophies shone through on their essays. I am not saying I condone racism, just that racists can and do get into good schools, and that as a very open-minded libertarian, I want every point of view (within some reason... I'd prefer the cannibalistic groups stay off campus...) represented in a forum where debate is available. </p>
<p>I listen to my dad's stories of going to UF in the 70's, and he told me that everyday at lunch, he'd go walk along this one sidewalk where everyone with a view on anything could quite literally get a soapbox and start talking about their beliefs. I want my college to have some of this. Mind you, I won't be stopping by the National Aryan Society's booth, but I do think they have just as much right to express their views (tainted as they may be) as the SGLT Student Alliance has to express their own views...</p>
<p>And who said racists couldn't be dedicated students? Some of the most offensive people of our times have also been the most intelligent.</p>
<p>I want to make sure no one gets the impression that I'm racist. I love my ethnic women very much... and as a jazz bass player, I can't stand white drummers for the most part... but that's all besides the point. I just think it's ironic that the same people who are outraged by the attack of a stereotype by a borderline racist are using stereotypes to classify the racists...</p>
<p>I'm going to go ahead and say something that I have been hesitant to say my whole life, but I see no reason to hold back, especially in the context of this thread: The majority of white people think they can push Asians around, whether it is in a school or the workplace, without any consequences because they think Asians as a whole are a mellow and nonconfrontational race. Also, white people as a whole have an intense feeling of envy towards Asians due to their total inadequacy in comparison when it comes to academics.</p>
<p>Well, I think the joke is on white people because it is entirely plausible that the writers of this Princeton article will be working for someone like Jian Li one day. There's nothing like a bunch of lazy white people posting a racist article on Asians to highlight the insecurity being felt by many Americans today that their jobs are about to be shipped off to Shanghai and Bangalore where Asians will be the new leaders of this age of globalization.</p>
<p>Welcome to the 21st Century. Ni hao ma to you.</p>
<p>I'm still trying to figure out what would be possible if the posters on this thread (and the others on this topic) devoted 1/10 of their passion to other topics of equal or greater importance. Quite a lot, I should think. Jian Li isn't starving, he isn't maimed from landmines still strewn about his country, he's not blind from fly infested eyes, and he can afford the $5 for a mosquito net that prevents malaria. Yep, priorities are all in order!</p>
<p>That is absolutely disgusting.</p>
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I think Jian Li had it coming.</p>
<p>And I don't think the article is offensive to Asians. If you read it closely, you'll notice the article doesn't mock Asians, but Li. The article focuses on Jian Li's self-evident uber-asianess/bastardized perspective of his own race, and builds on that. The writer intends the racial comments to emerge from Li's own lips.
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<p>il bandito, I don't think it's about jian li alone in the article. If you read it closely, the article said that "we cook greesy food, we wash your clothes", ... railroad haul ass... we this we that ... and that he's celebrating his CHINESE NEW YEAR AT BERKELEY. And I'm sure Jian Li didn't play violin, piano, violin, cello ... all at the same time. Those false statements "represented" Jian Li's stats and generalize asians as well. If the author did truely said something that was actually on Jian Li's resume or made jokes based on his stats, that would have been mocking Jian Li only. In this case, it is not.</p>
<p>This is a satirical article that is trying to emphasise a common sterotype and what the extremes such sterotype can lead to. It's no different than skits on Madtv or SNL. Plus, student newspapers are supposed to be controversial - that's just the way it is. Would we rather have a censured newspaper that doesnt talk about important and sometimes controversial issues in order to keep readers content, or do we want issues to be brought up that spark discussion and question the sterotype (or whatever else is that is being questioned)?</p>
<p>i find that asian chinese are not only 'discriminated against' in America, but pretty much wherever they are because their diligence simply makes other races feel insecure.</p>
<p>Oh, and another thing. Up until now, nobody seems to have mentioned that the Jian Li article was in the OPINION section of the Prince. IT IS AN EDITOR'S RIGHT TO PUT WHATEVER HE WANTS IN HIS OWN OPINION SECTION!!!! Fine, disagree with the article. Be offended. But DON'T think that the administration should punish anybody or censor anything.</p>
<p>being asian, i personally do not find the article offensive, just amusing lol</p>
<p>"I'm going to go ahead and say something that I have been hesitant to say my whole life, but I see no reason to hold back, especially in the context of this thread: The majority of white people think they can push Asians around, whether it is in a school or the workplace, without any consequences because they think Asians as a whole are a mellow and nonconfrontational race. Also, white people as a whole have an intense feeling of envy towards Asians due to their total inadequacy in comparison when it comes to academics.</p>
<p>Well, I think the joke is on white people because it is entirely plausible that the writers of this Princeton article will be working for someone like Jian Li one day. There's nothing like a bunch of lazy white people posting a racist article on Asians to highlight the insecurity being felt by many Americans today that their jobs are about to be shipped off to Shanghai and Bangalore where Asians will be the new leaders of this age of globalization.</p>
<p>Welcome to the 21st Century. Ni hao ma to you."</p>
<p>That was a lot more racist than the actual article. Academics Inadequacy my foot. I'm white And I'm right up there with the best of them at my school. You're defeating the stereotype for Asians, then using a stereotype to judge whites. </p>
<p>Leaders of the new society huh? This is not a racist statement, just an honest observation. How many Asian politicians or lawyers have you seen? Personally, I haven't seen many. Evil Asian Dictator, the statements you made are much more racist than anything in that article, because as much as you hate it, it is a satire in an opinion section of the paper, in the joke edition... You have posted your true feelings on a public discussion forum... there's no way to deny what you've said...</p>
<p>I agree with visirale. Evil asian, by saying what you said you totally disqualified yourself from any rational debate on this topic. The article was written completely in jest, and you go crazy because you are "offended." Then you make SERIOUSLY racist statements that are for worse than any in the article and that you don't even ATTEMPT to call humor, and expect people to take you seriously. Get lost.</p>
<p>Evil_Asian,</p>
<p>If it were possible, I would make some effort to have your previous post deleted. It does not serve you well; far worse, it gives credibility to those you would oppose and that might oppose you.</p>
<p>who's to say you are the judge between racism and humor? personally, i chuckled at evil asian's statement a hell lot more than the princeton article (which i did not chuckle at all by the way)</p>
<p>the lead story in today's prince, "joke op-ed sparks ire, controversy":</p>
<p>also, an editors' note on the op-ed (text follows link):</p>
<p>Since publishing Wednesday's joke issue, we have learned that some of our readers were offended by a column satirizing Asian stereotypes. The response surprised us: We did not seek to offend, and we sincerely regret having upset some of our readers.</p>
<pre><code>Many criticisms of the column, however, do not recognize its purpose. Using hyperbole and an unbelievable string of stereotypes, we hoped to lampoon racism by showing it at its most outrageous. We embraced racist language in order to strangle it. At its worst, the column was a bad joke; at its best, it provoked serious thought about issues of race, fairness and diversity.
The column in question was penned by a diverse group of students — including several Asians on our senior editorial staff — who had no malicious intent. Given our purpose, we are deeply troubled by and reject the allegation of racism.
We welcome debate about our column, especially in the pages of this newspaper. We hope our readers will see the column for what it is.
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<p>Funny article. I don't understand why everyone is getting their panties in a knot about it.... If someone wrote about white people like this, I'd laugh my ass off. Good stuff, Daily Princetonian.</p>
<p>Column aside, it was in bad taste. If you really want to be serious about race issues then no need to lampoon it. Makes me think twice about the type of students at Princeton.</p>