<p>I think post #13 by Alexandre has Hopkins too high. Should be:</p>
<p>GROUP I
Harvard University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Princeton University
Stanford University
Yale University</p>
<p>GROUP II
Brown University
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Dartmouth College
Duke University
Northwestern University
University of Chicago
University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>GROUP III
Carnegie Mellon University
Johns Hopkins University
Washington University-St Louis
+
Rice University
Tufts University
Vanderbilt University</p>
<p>This is totally subjective and TOTALLY comical. “I think post # 13 by Alexandre has Hopkins too high.” Really? According to what? They’re all incredible schools. What about Emory University? Notre Dame? All great schools. They’re all well-rounded schools – some are just better in particular areas than others. Ya know? Guarantee you if you get accepted to any one of these schools, the first reaction is to, oh, I don’t know – poop your pants with excitement?</p>
<p>Based on what? Hopkins is a research juggernaut, has one of the top three hospitals in the country, has been donated over a billion dollars by an alumnus (Bloomberg,) and was considered by Stanford University, among others, to be a peer institution.</p>
<p>Hopkins has a much better claim to being part of group II than schools like Brown and Dartmouth do, imo.</p>
<p>Interesting. I know they tend to be more expensive than the other Illinois state schools, but they’re also the best of the Illinois state schools. </p>
<p>But, I’m an independent with a 0 EFC currently.</p>
<p>For engineering or CS. Added Berkeley as that’s were OP is going and a few other top schools:</p>
<p>GROUP I (alpha order within groups)</p>
<p>Berkeley
California Institute of Technology
Carnegie Mellon University
Cornell University
Harvey Mudd College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Rice University
Stanford University
UIUC
University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>GROUP II (alpha)</p>
<p>Columbia University
Duke University
Johns Hopkins University
Princeton University
Northwestern University
University of Chicago
Vanderbilt University
Washington University-St Louis</p>
<p>GROUP III (alpha)</p>
<p>Brown University
Dartmouth College
Harvard University (worst for enginering as non-ABET)
Tufts University
Yale University</p>