<p>Things can exist as things greater than 1 whole value of a standard unit. Harvard in this case should be like 1 Newton. Though Harvard probably is the only school at the moment with a ranking greater than or equal to 1000 milliharvards, it shouldn’t be the definition that no place but Harvard can have that score.</p>
<p>The mH is the new Mole. (Currently majoring in Prestigiosity hoping to be a Prestigiositist like the ones that work in USNews) </p>
<p>I feel it should be the definition but I suppose Hunt will have to weigh in, if he still cares, since he created the term :D</p>
<p>From the very first post in this thread:
Stanford is having a nice little run right now, as it periodically does. This is why I give it such a high rating in the first place. Perhaps, someday, the Stanford brand will catch up with the Harvard brand here on CC. But don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen.</p>
<p>Just as an example: when people are discussing super-selective colleges in general, and want to give an example, it is much more likely that they will use “Harvard” than any other school, or probably any other 10 schools combined. This is, of course, based on my impressionistic (yet highly scientific) recollection of a zillion threads here on CC.</p>
<p>^ You are funny (serve righ on target of this thread 
) … Stanford is already running ahead of Harvard; it doesn’t need to ‘catch up’… I am laughing out loud!</p>
<p>“Harvard” has twice as many hits on Google as “Stanford.” 'Nuff said.</p>
<p>^ Are you talking about the total hits (replies) on CC? If so Cornell has way more hits than Harvard - 270,000 vs. 210,000. </p>
<p>Oops, you said ‘on Google’ in your post… sorry, I missed that part earlier because I thought you continue to base things on CC! Now, care to share the source regarding number of hits on Google?</p>
<p>I think for at least until 2020, Harvard will probably be the first school that comes to mind while thinking of prestigious universities. In the next decade, Stanford could possibly tie Harvard. </p>
<p>Rankings (based on my impressions):
Harvard
Yale, Stanford, MIT, Princeton, Wharton
Columbia
Chicago, Brown
Dartmouth, rest of Penn, Duke
Cornell, NW, Vandy
GTown, UMich, UVA, Tufts, WUSTL, UC Berkeley, maybe a few more</p>
<p>However, there’s a noticeable drop after the HYPSM among the layperson. My bias is probably showing here since I’m an aspiring investment banker/trader. </p>
<p>^Younger people don’t seem to think so even today - there is no need to wait for a decade. 
</p>
<p>New York Times
<a href=“Riding Technology Wave, Stanford Rises to Top of Some Measures - The New York Times”>Riding Technology Wave, Stanford Rises to Top of Some Measures - The New York Times;
<p>Lay Prestige (in my opinion):</p>
<p>Tier 1a - Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, MIT
Tier 1b - Columbia, Caltech (people who have heard about it) and Wharton
Tier 2a - Dartmouth, Duke, Penn (excluding Wharton)
Tier 2b - Brown, Cornell, Berkeley
Tier 3 - Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Chicago, Northwestern, WUSTL, Georgetown, USC, UCLA</p>
<p>^ I think if anyone wants to ask to compare these top schools in America, the good high school counselors who are dealing with prospective students for top schools everyday are the most credible.</p>
<p>This is how award winning high school counselors rank them:
<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/high-school-counselor</a></p>
<h1>1 Cornell, Harvard, MIT, Princeton, Stanford, Yale (Alphabetic)</h1>
<h1>7 Brown, Columbia, Dartmouth, Johns Hopkins, Penn</h1>
<h1>12 CalTech, Carnegie Mellon, Duke, Georgetown, UC Berkeley, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt</h1>
<h1>19 Northwestern, Chicago, William and Mary, Emory, Rice, Tuffs, UCLA, North Carolina – Chapel Hill, UVA, Washington U in St. Louis</h1>
<p>I know you said #1 and #19 is only 0.3 out of 5 difference in other thread. But if we convert this to a scale of 100, we have #1 at 98, #7 at 96, #12 at 94, #19 at 92. May be just the difference of A+ and A-?</p>
<p>Eh yeah. I think it might take a few more years for UChicago’s lay prestige to match its overall status now. It didn’t really start marketing itself and become a “sexy” school until recently. The whole “where fun comes to die” thing hurt the school, maybe. I think in another 5-10 years, it will easily be included in the discussion with Columbia. </p>
<p>^ It is equally possible that students will wise up to the whole marketing thing and the number of applicants will continue to plummet (they experienced a 9.5% decrease this year). </p>
<p>I would simply note that those attempting to inject facts into this thread are missing the point.</p>
<p>^Agreed. And thanks for just pointed out there are facts on this page even though most are fictions. haha.</p>
<p>I feel like Brown is very underrated. In my part of the woods (NY) Brown is slightly more respected than dartmouth from what I’ve seen.</p>
<p>My personal rankings:
HYPSM
(noticeable drop)
Columbia, Caltech
Chicago, Penn, Brown
Duke, Dartmouth, Cornell
NW, JHU, Vandy, GTown, UMich, UVA, maybe a couple more </p>
<p>I’m going off of my own observations in elite companies (i.e. Goldman, JPMorgan, Mckinsey, Bain, etc.) and elite graduate programs. Among lay prestige, schools are very regional and in a neutral area (i.e. Colorado), everything except HYPS and maybe MIT is pretty unknown from my experience if the school doesn’t have a D1 sports team. </p>
<p>In a global point of view, not in any order, the most respected and prestigious American colleges are:
Yale
Princeton
Wharton Penn
Harvard
Georgetown SFS
Stanford
Caltech
MIT</p>
<p>So I went through and used actual number (pseudoscientifically, of course!). Here’s what I got- you probably won’t have too hard a time figuring out what numbers I used:</p>
<p>Prestigiosity Among Respectable Institutions
in milliHYPes</p>
<p>Average (Mean): 860.6945454
Median: 864.7538218</p>
<p>Harvard College 1000
Massachusetts Institute of Technology 999.6576366
Yale University 996.8095025
Princeton University 993.8278432
Stanford University 991.6219371
California Institute of Technology 987.2018279
Harvey Mudd College 985.2980164
Duke University 984.4534343
University of Chicago 978.1959534
Columbia University 977.6579476
Rice University 977.5238913
Brown University 976.1969785
University of Pennsylvania 974.5295798
Dartmouth College 973.1077346
Vanderbilt University 972.4482031
Williams College 966.5729996
Pomona College 962.9188141
Washington University in St. Louis 961.9364575
Northwestern Univesity 958.9938181
Swarthmore College 958.3218294
Cornell University (New York) 951.8366746
Amherst College 951.5299505
Johns Hopkins University 948.2783346
Webb Institute 946.1070483
University of Notre Dame 945.6995454
Franklin W. Olin College of Engineering 944.5037003
Wellesley College 940.8198981
Georgia Institute of Technology 940.2247556
Georgetown University 938.0652841
Davidson College 937.209387
Carnegie Mellon University 932.4489796
Northeastern University (Massachusetts) 929.8442887
University of California, Berkeley 929.4733092
Wesleyan University (Connecticut) 927.180786
Case Western Reserve University 926.8176216
Vassar College 926.5057492
Washington and Lee University 926.4671641
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 925.8999306
University of Texas at Dallas 924.7382035
University of Southern California 921.3944933
Oberlin College 920.7628677
Bowdoin College 919.8203426
Carleton College 917.2744335
University of Miami 916.3470047
University of Virginia 916.3337991
University of Michigan 916.3331548
University of Texas at Austin 915.722339
Barnard College 914.3511187
Tufts University 910.2299026
Smith College 910.1325718
Occidental College 908.2598213
Wake Forest University 906.8605518
University of Pittsburgh 904.0728027
Kenyon College 902.1637483
Wheaton College (Illinois) 901.7343721
University of Alabama at Birmingham 900.8604484
University of Oklahoma 900.7032283
Hillsdale College 899.46851
University of Maryland, College Park 896.4164616
Claremont McKenna College 894.7108739
Hendrix College 893.6640461
Emory University 893.4614935
New York University 892.5218447
Bryn Mawr College 892.2714689
University of Tulsa 891.5850588
Baylor University 890.1244604
Fordham University 890.0600749
Denison University 887.278624
St. Olaf College 887.1510366
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology 885.871775
Kalamazoo College 883.3251238
Benedictine College (Kansas) 882.6293295
Auburn University 882.0365277
Scripps College 879.4175864
University of Georgia 878.1447197
Texas A&M University 876.6167878
University of South Carolina - Columbia 875.437515
Southern Methodist University 875.1979321
University of Florida 873.721111
Reed College 870.0558744
University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa 869.2286402
Brigham Young University 869.1894416
College of William and Mary 868.6876355
Macalester College 868.6631144
University of Dallas 868.565154
Union University (Tennessee) 867.8849102
Ohio State University - Columbus 867.8746237
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 867.5647639
University of Minnesota - Twin Cities 866.217909
Middlebury College 865.9300136
Oklahoma Christian University 865.132661
Ouachita Baptist University 864.7991136
Lawrence University (Wisconsin) 864.7085299
LeTourneau University 864.7085299
University of California, Los Angeles 864.4594962
Purdue University 863.717586
SUNY College at Geneseo 861.2793309
University of California, San Diego 859.9235175
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 859.6849039
University of Maryland, Baltimore County 859.0377252
Lehigh University 858.6352782
University of Kentucky 858.1950237
Furman University 856.99116
University of Richmond 854.4999807
University of Washington 852.6811535
University of Arizona 852.2290085
North Carolina State University 851.7778565
Yeshiva University 851.7364869
Clemson University 849.4918052
George Washington University 847.6303438
Colorado School of Mines 847.540595
University of Idaho 847.540595
University of Alabama in Huntsville 847.4087244
State University of New York at Stony Brook 847.0440077
Santa Clara University 846.916806
University of Tennessee, Knoxville 846.3753128
University of Utah 843.6127152
University of Wisconsin - Madison 840.8951367
Boston University 840.5153446
Valparaiso University 839.2252463
Montana State University - Bozeman 838.6130217
University of Nebraska - Lincoln 838.5026758
Louisiana State University at Baton Rouge 838.0802622
Tulane University 836.8031637
Hope College 835.7993818
University of Central Florida 834.8330813
Drake University 834.8215999
University of Cincinnati 834.0878954
Boston College 832.9076561
Arizona State University 831.3472097
University of Louisville 830.7218365
Bucknell University 830.486759
University of Connecticut - Storrs 829.8741005
American University 823.2836976
Iowa State University 822.4188988
Worcester Polytechnic Institute 822.3571102
Indiana University Bloomington 821.4681789
Oklahoma State University 817.4402731
University of Arkansas, Fayetteville 816.8678958
Missouri University of Science and Technology 816.2188681
Mississippi State University 815.5678456
University of Kansas 813.9325767
Elon University 813.9269962
University of Rochester 812.1715975
College of New Jersey 811.3770906
Pennsylvania State University - University Park 807.7960146
University of Mississippi 806.8070191
Truman State University 806.4942489
Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 804.9573454
Michigan State University 802.6825709
North Dakota State University 799.5517238
University of Colorado at Boulder 799.0227324
University of Wisconsin - Oshkosh 797.4563515
Drexel University 795.7889992
University of South Alabama 794.4255386
Marshall University 792.2673836
Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey 790.1357309
University of Illinois at Chicago 787.4344776
University of South Florida 776.7308532
California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo 776.2429392
West Virginia University 775.707212
Loyola University Chicago 774.4051818
Saint Louis University 774.4016103
University of North Carolina at Greensboro 768.5667199
University of Iowa 764.9866608
Florida State University 756.0038261
Hunter College of the City University of New York 750.4854849
Syracuse University 749.339656
Miami University - Oxford 745.5445873
University of Nevada, Reno 744.931465
University of California, Davis 740.9173023
Xavier University of Louisiana 738.5358393
Illinois Institute of Technology 737.3056214
University of Oregon 735.4534221
University of Houston - University Park 734.0030281
Morehouse College 724.8372636
Florida A&M University 717.3115393
University of Delaware 715.2876271
Howard University 711.3730766
Colorado State University 691.4250139
Ithaca College 673.0213003
College of Charleston 662.7703577
Florida International University 651.0028696
Rochester Institute of Technology 504.8256543</p>