<p>1 - Georgetown SFS. :)</p>
<p>4, I guess...</p>
<p>Georgetown University and proud of it! ;)</p>
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<li>i want stanford or mit :)</li>
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You've got steep standards if you think Cornell engineering sucks.</p>
<p>I'll go ahead and put myself up for public lynching and say 7. </p>
<p>I've referred to it before as 'intellectual sexiness'. There is something captivating in the knowledge that every person in your class is brilliant, and the intellectual challenge that results from it. Of course it's possible to receive an excellent education from a non-Ivy school (this is why I didn't rate it 10), but you'd be hard-pressed to find that caliber of students in such high concentration anywhere else.</p>
<p>Having said that, it's a dream and goal but in no way an obsession.</p>
<p>In the Ivy League, there are only eight schools. However, there are still other schools which are equally as good in terms of academics, etc. It'd be nice to get into an Ivy League school, but I wouldn't be disappointed otherwise. The four Ivy schools I might apply to next year are: Brown, Columbia, Cornell, and Dartmouth. I'd rate my level of consideration around 5.</p>
<p>1, for me. I don't have the grades/SAT score/ambition to go to an Ivy. :P</p>
<p>However, I'll be attending Boston University next year, which is right across the river from Harvard.</p>
<p>I'd say like a .5-- I knew my scores weren't up to par with the Ivies, and I had it in mind anyway to attend a nice small LAC or a big university I wanted to be at. I didn't even consider applying to Brown, Harvard, Cornell etc.</p>
<p>However... I'm going to start undergrad this fall, but I'm already thinking about Ivies for grad (particularily for LAW). </p>
<p>So for grad-- like a 9 in desire for an Ivy.</p>
<p>It will be enormously difficult and hard but: Yale or Stanford law, baby! </p>
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<p>10!!!! PRESTIGE FREAK!</p>
<p>i will change myself for harvard. i will go to africa and help children with AIDS or work in smelly soup kitchens, study until 5a.m. and get 2 hours of sleep, have no friends, or friends that are just like me, read about the string theory for fun, suck up to my teachers, generate a list of "EC" that looks good on paper, memorize a dictionary for the SAT, practise for ACT every morning at 6a.m. until Im sure i can get a perfect score, kill the teacher if (s)he tries to give me an A- , write my essay during the summer - have every single one of my english teacher since 5th grade review it, hire a professional to review it, and then improve on it. come up with a few hooks, and most of all, i am willing to have no life but prestige</p>
<p>It's good to start out my morning with a chuckle - thanks XOKAND....I love the blatant desperation of your post. Might have to save it for future reference. Anyway, I'd give a definite "1" to BS degree and an "7" or 8" for either a Masters/Ph.D. degree. It's helpful to have at least one grad. degree from an Ivy...but undergraduate? Nah...</p>
<p>-5 . Did not apply to any ivies b/c of their relatively bad engineering programs (except for Cornell, which is too depressing for me). Applied to the best Non-Ivies, including Stanford, Berkeley, MIT, Hopkins, etc.</p>
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<p>If you think you're going to get a class full of brilliant people at an any school, even an Ivy League, you're dreamin'.</p>
<p>Also, there is no challenge in having a class full of geniuses if it's not curved.</p>
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i will change myself for harvard. i will go to africa and help children with AIDS or work in smelly soup kitchens, study until 5a.m. and get 2 hours of sleep, have no friends, or friends that are just like me, read about the string theory for fun, suck up to my teachers, generate a list of "EC" that looks good on paper, memorize a dictionary for the SAT, practise for ACT every morning at 6a.m. until Im sure i can get a perfect score, kill the teacher if (s)he tries to give me an A- , write my essay during the summer - have every single one of my english teacher since 5th grade review it, hire a professional to review it, and then improve on it. come up with a few hooks, and most of all, i am willing to have no life but prestige
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<p>No life but prestige? Hmm... future physicist?</p>
<p>UCLAri -- Of course, but the overall level of intelligence (in the traditional sense of the word) is obviously going to be higher at Yale than at my local community college.</p>
<p>Point well-received. The one difference I've found in my dealings with students at UCLA vs. (for example) Harvard is that the upper tier at both are for all intents and purposes exactly the same. However, the lowest tier at UCLA digs lower into the barrel than at Harvard. While it's frustrating to occasionally end up with one of the bottom feeders here, I find that if I'm careful enough, I can have a distinctly intellectual experience at UCLA.</p>
<p>Besides, who wants to deal with that much snow every year? :-)</p>
<p>First off, I am Columbia '09, but I will say this: I had no intentions to be at any other Ivy. The fact that Columbia was Ivy had nothing to do with my want to go there. Another thing is that there are many schools out there that are not Ivy, and are very well known like MIT and Stanford. In fact I would dare say that if you told someone you were going to MIT, they would be far more impressed than if you said you were going to UPenn which many people don't known is an Ivy. Lastly, I have met some females going to Columbia next with me who seemed very stupid and where not very attractive, and I met a girl at the University of Alabama who was a physics major and was top of her class who I thought looked pretty good. For these reasons, Ivy = 1 in matter of importance.</p>
<p>I'm gonna say...5. A month ago, I would have said 10 in less than a heartbeat, but now I've realized that I might enjoy life better at the state college. Who knows? UPENN and Harvard are the only 2 Ivies that I really, really want to get into; the others are just kind of like meh...I might choose a full-ride to Ohio State Univeristy over 20k need-based scholarship to UPENN...</p>
<p>"Point well-received. The one difference I've found in my dealings with students at UCLA vs. (for example) Harvard is that the upper tier at both are for all intents and purposes exactly the same. "</p>
<p>Putnam scores would beg to differ</p>
<p>UCB, however has a better case been top 5 4x< more than UCLA</p>