Regarding Forgery

<p>^^ Given that language, it looks like the school may disclose it according to FERPA rules but isn’t obliged to. I don’t know what particular colleges would do if a parent demanded a transcript - I guess at a minimum the parent would have to provide some sort of proof to the college that they claimed the kid as a dependent and a simple copy of a tax return can easily be falsified.</p>

<p>@jym - My quote, didn’t want to clutter the post.</p>

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<p>What he should be concerned about isn’t some hypothetical prosecution (which I doubt is forthcoming) but the very real chance of disciplinary action from the university. Worrying about a prosecution in this situation is only slightly more rational than worrying that the parents are going to order out a hit or call in an airstrike on your house. Focus on the real problems first, then freak about the absurd possibilities.</p>

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<p>Stop being a CC hall monitor. Lighten up Annasdad. This is CC, not purchased advice from experts. No one is presenting facts, merely opinions, as you can see by the diversity of them on every single thread. And they should be taken as such. </p>

<p>Now for judgments, I think these parents have much bigger fish to fry, within their own home, than pursuing legal action of a daughter’s friend.</p>

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<p>And when those opinions are represented as facts, the danger is that someone will considet them so and take unfortunate action based on them. If you don’t like my posts, that’s what the ignore list is for.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, the ignore function only works when somebody is logged in.</p>

<p>I am reminded of a discussion group to which I once belonged that had an antagonistic member. He was finally “outed” as a reporter and banned from coming to further discussions. </p>

<p>It was obvious he was “doing a story” on our little group.</p>

<p>“And when those opinions are represented as facts, the danger is that someone will considet them so and take unfortunate action based on them.”</p>

<p>Its a free country… people can read others opinions and make decisions on their own.
I think that you are overdoing the worrying about the “danger” that someone will take something posted on an internet forum as “the word of God” bit a little too seriously…
you’re not their mother…</p>

<p>When I see nonsense, I call it nonsense. If you don’t like it, see post 45.</p>

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LOL! Great line, starbright. Exactly right. People are posting opinions. Anyone taking these as factually certain/absolutes deserves what they get :)</p>

<p>back on previous page regarding transcripts/records: I’ve always had full access to my children’s, including in previous & current undergrad years. Not sure if that was because of financial dependency or financial aid status, but it has been freely offered by the U’s in both cases. In the case of the private U, it mailed me her grades every semester; I never asked.</p>

<p>As for accessing my s’s grades, neither of my s’s schools has made that available without the students consent. Older son gave us permission. Younger s gave permission freshman year, but the next year the school redid their accounts (to FINALLY use a number other than the SSN) and we had to re-register. At that point son did not want us to have access to his grades. So we don’t. We can see/pay his bills but thats all.</p>

<p>I am not condoning the behavior of these parents, but I think it is crazy for parents to NOT ask for transcripts regularly (at least at the end of each year) if they are paying the bill. I recall an acquaintance of mine in high school whose dad was giving him the money to pay tuition, and he actually had dropped out of college. This went on for two years before dad twigged, and the money was all spent. If parents are paying even a portion of the bill, they have a right to confirm that their kid is passing their classes and is on track with graduation requirements.</p>

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<p>And the college was cashing the tuition checks, even though the student was no longer enrolled?</p>

<p>Fortunately our s tells us his grades. This year we needed to send in a copy of his transcript to our auto insurance company to continue to get the good student discount. So he printed it out for us. It was exactly as he has told us. Whew :)</p>

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<p>The parent may have just given the money to the student, assuming that the student was responsible enough to handle paying the bills.</p>

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If I had such little trust in my kid that I felt I couldn’t trust their word I don’t think I’d pay for their college in the first place. Due diligence is asking the kid how it’s going, if there are any problems, and maybe if there’s an issue with graduating on time. Requiring an official written document as proof implies another issue.</p>

<p>If the kid has a previous history of repeatedly lying to the parents about important issues such at this while they’re around college age and the parents decide to fund their college regardless then I can see that they might want to see the written documentation but I think they’d do better to simply let the kid pay for their own college at that point.</p>

<p>This whole thread is so silly, and I can’t believe it’s gone on for so many pages. OP is a kid in a panic because he helped his girlfriend lie to her parents and they blew a gasket. The parents will cool off. Nobody will sue anyone; no one will be subjected to criminal action. As for the fact that the parents require transcripts, who are we to judge? Perhaps the girl has a history of lying and her parents have very good reason to mistrust her.</p>

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I recall an acquaintance of mine in high school whose dad was giving him the money to pay tuition, and he actually had dropped out of college. This went on for two years before dad twigged, and the money was all spent. </p>

<p>And the college was cashing the tuition checks, even though the student was no longer enrolled? </p>

<p>What part of “giving him the money to pay” didn’t you understand? Does it say writing checks to the college? NOPE I didn’t think so. </p>

<p>I know a girl who married an in state GI to get benefits and didn’t tell her parents. Her mom was sneaking her money and gifts because she felt guilty. Mom had no idea what a lying sneak her daughter was. People who act like this get exactly what they deserve. Both the mother and the daughter were disgusting. I’m sure this family will turn out the same. The boyfriend should run far far away before the girl claims she is pregnant because in fact her parents are disowning her.</p>

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<p>Before you start any conspiracy theories that the college deceived the parents, this can happen very easily. Even if the parent did not give the $ directly to their child, students are billed and colleges are paid before the student shows up to campus or class. Every school in the country has a withdrawal period where students can be refunded all or part of their money. A student can withdraw from school the minute they step foot on campus and be refunded 100% of tuition and fees. The college is not going to tell the parent that the student dropped all of their classes.</p>

<p>I hope inparent’s friend was not my cousin who did the exact same thing when we were in college (different schools).</p>

<p>I totally understand why families want to be top of grades and see transcripts. I know families whose kids were placed on probation or were academically dismissed and the parents did not know anything about it until it was a done deal. </p>

<p>How many posters right here on CC would have been better served seeing a transcript/grades before asking right here on CC that their child lost their scholarship, financial aid, is on probation or got dismissed?</p>

<p>Quit being logical, sybbie :)</p>