<p>I've read through a couple of threads and I find it astounding that well over half, about 80% of the applicants here were rejected, maybe 15% deferred and the rest accepted. I certainly expected to see more acceptances from collegeconfidential users. I was rejected and my stats were 2230 Sat, 14th percentile (auto-rejection), 800s in math2 and physics, and good recs and essays. Anyway, good job to the people that made it, good luck to the ones that were deferred and to the ones that were rejected, remeber that Feynman also never made it into Columbia.</p>
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<p>Columbia doesn’t add any value to a person. It was the people that gave Columbia it’s value.</p>
<p>And undergrad doesn’t matter anyways. Grad does.</p>
<p>i know this is really pessimistic, but grad school matters ^^^ and getting into a good grad school is based on what undergrad you get into. ■■■.</p>
<p>Well I speak for med school. All you need is a good GPA in undergrad and do good on the MCATs. Your undergrad does not matter whatsoever. Trust me, I know my stuff.</p>
<p>Silence, man - i guess it just wasn’t meant to be 
I have no idea what to do from here, i’m just in shock. how are you holding up?</p>
<p>well, let it be was posted up there for a reason, doc.</p>
<p>If you’re aiming for medical school / law school, where you go for undergrad doesn’t matter. For LS, it’s all about your GPA + LSAT combo. Take the easiest classes, get a high 3.9 GPA, take LSAT, get about a 174, and that’s guaranteed Harvard Law.</p>
<p>Anecdotally, I had a friend in high school who was a really nice guy, and smart but not <em>in-your-face</em> kind of smart. He went to a school I guarantee none of you guys have ever heard of in the middle of Pennsylvania. 4 years later…</p>
<p>1st year at Harvard Medical School, Rhodes Scholar. =)</p>
<p>what school truazn?</p>
<p>ursinus 8char</p>
<p>@Truazn: yup thanks for confirming what I said :)</p>
<p>@Doctorje: you just gotta move on bro. If Columbia doesn’t want me, then I don’t want it. There is another good college out there that wants me.</p>
<p>At least that’s my mentality</p>
<p>you’re right dude, I was just looking forward to all of it, i got ahead of myself… Let me know where you end up though, i wish you the best of luck</p>
<p>just saw your post on the other thread, i’m interested in NYU as well, maybe we’ll see each other there</p>
<p>Thanks bro. Keep me updated about your plans too!</p>
<p>I want to keep contact with all the friends I made here. Want to join my forum. It’s a good way of not losing friends that you make online :)</p>
<p>definitely, PM me the link! this is the website that you’ve been talking about, right?</p>
<p>A kid in my class had a 2370, 2400 superscored, 3.9 gpa, 7 aps, and got deferred. columbia is insane this year!</p>
<p>sometimes it is good to be a big fish in a little pond, i am sure truazn agrees to some extent.</p>
<p>i will say to truazn’s point about med/law school is that - all things being equal between candidates, one from columbia, another from pick your place, the columbia student gets into the law school or med school. and this is verified over and over again, and by raw figures.</p>
<p>why? law and med school admissions people went to ivies and the like undergrad, they like their own. there is an artificial ceiling still put up on schools that aren’t part of the ‘in group.’ and as much as we can look at anecdotes and other processes, the ivy to ivy grad school network is just as real and strong. its the reason you were even considered for your post at your job, and why i knew many folks who were dispassionate columbians who ended up at harvard med.</p>
<p>then there is the notion of competition and wanting to be part of rising tides. i mean the point is there is a counternarrative for being the big fish in a small pond. and i think ultimately students should consider and think about both alternatives at all times. even as we work here to help raise their spirits a bit about their rejection, it doesn’t mean they should immediately abandon any ivy or ivy-like school for the ursinus’ of the world. they should see it as a choice still.</p>
<p>“i will say to truazn’s point about med/law school is that - all things being equal between candidates, one from columbia, another from pick your place, the columbia student gets into the law school or med school. and this is verified over and over again, and by raw figures.”</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, you are wrong. According to stats, that I read before very few of Cornell undergrads for example end up getting accepted to Med School. And Cornell is a fellow Ivy League.</p>
<p>Do you have any proof/links for your stats?</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with raising spirits. We simply want to have a factual conversation.</p>
<p>well this is nowhere online, but notes from a presentation by the office of preprofessional advising in 2007. i keep this convo handy just for this. you can say it is hearsay because it is, but i trust it. the only thing is that it is 3 years old now.</p>
<p>and the direct quote re: med school:
“columbia is extremely competitive with our peers, being in a very unique league along with harvard, yale, princeton and stanford, as the only schools that have admission rates to medical school in the high 80%, it is common for most universities to be below 50% in their admission rates, we stand in very select company. columbians most often attend in order columbia, albert einstein, mt. sinai, nyu, harvard, yale med schools”</p>
<p>question: what does this say about where they are admitted?
answer: based on our surveys and depending on the year, the majority of applicants state they were admitted to their preferred top choice.</p>
<p>her source: ivy+ schools share information about admission rates to med schools with each other.</p>
<p>question: what about law school admit rates?
answer: because law applicants do not always go through the university, it is harder to track or confirm, but admission rates are comparable to med school admission rates. columbia students most often attend in order columbia, nyu, harvard, yale law schools.</p>
<p>as for the more evident aspects - most law schools do publish data about who enters their class, there are sites like law school numbers that are good at aggregating some things. for some reason i thought lsac had something more comprehensive, but they changed their website and i can’t find it at all.</p>
<p>Where you go to college has little to do with med school admissions. Get the best education you can, but great grades from a lesser known school are likely to trump so-so grades from a CC approved top 10 type school. Far more important is how well you did in school and on your MCAT and what kind of extra-curricular activities have you participated in. And in relation to the latter, it doesn’t have to be medically related ( though that doesn’t hurt your chances) but they do want to see commitment and leadership. And it’s fine to have certain med schools as a goal, but again, that doesn’t matter a bit if your goal is to practice medicine. Your residency will have far more to do with what kind/quality of physician you become than your medical school. The curriculum in med schools across the country is pretty similar. A prestigious name may help if you desire a career in research.
Most of the people who do well coming from prestigious undergrad programs succeed because they are the type of driven, determined, talented people who could get into those programs. The program didn’t make them great; they were that way when they got there. Med schools recognize this and they allow people to develop their greatness at Cal state Chico, the University of S. Dakota and Western Mich. U. to name but a few.</p>