<p>Well...its really hard to understand wat actually the US colleges want.
they myt go on blabbering abut ecas sats n wat not..but at the end of the day all that matters is ur BANK BALANCE.i just dnt understand y do they have to misguide students.y cant they directly say..DNT ASK FOR TOO MUCH AID................y do we then even apply wastin so much money ...to receive a nice letter sayin.."ur app was great but we cant give u enuf aid"......PATHETIC.......they rather mention the amount they r willin to pay!</p>
<p>well, you have to realise they are a school... a university... and fundamentally, a business. not a charity organisation.</p>
<p>i agree naziba..gues wat...Temple Uni...a third tier college n my safety skul...REJECTED me sayin dat they cant 'support me financially'!!!b*****s!!!! n u knw wat..initially they put up 'accepted' on the status of my application :S! weird....how it all comes down to one thing....MONEY...n btw guys...same here...i got my mocks comin up..n a physics test tomorw..cant study...im frequently chekin my inbox for any new emails...lol...</p>
<p>last year, I got rejected from 9 (out of 12) colleges because I could pay only a mere $3000. Even though I was a "strong applicant". I share your feelings guys.</p>
<p>And I remember reading in 5 of the letters something like this "if your financial contribution increases substantially, please send us documentation and we will seriously consider your application" :(</p>
<p>Which schools did accept you (PierreMarie)?</p>
<p>omg...dats bad...yeh they said Exactly the same thing in that letter from the uni..hey btw Pierre..da ones which accepted you...did they cover the rest of your cost??</p>
<p>wow...um only a mediocre applicant, relying a LOT on odds ( 4 down, 12 to go ) and ECAs ( art portfolio and grade 5 ABRSM pianist)....i kno about this guy who applied to 30 colleges and got only 1 acceptance with full scholarship from REED...<em>sigh</em>..t'was very inspiring!</p>
<p>International University Bremen, NYU, Grinnell College. Eventually I didn't attend any of them since they didn't give me a good financial aid package (NYU didn't give me anything at all) :( so I took a gap year (went to japan for an exchange), applied for the freeman scholarship--and I'm waiting for the decision.. if that fails still, i will have to go to the local U..</p>
<p>dont worry...im in the same boat too
at least they looked at your apps...the office at one uni i applied went straight for my financial stuff and rejected me on the spot !</p>
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its giving me a nausea....:mad: X 100000.....</p>
<p>NYU is notorious for bad finaid, domestic or int'l. Bugger butt annoying school.
Grinnell - I'm surprised! I thought they were generous with aid for intels... <em>worried</em>
As for IUB...I thought they were generous, too. But then again, my school is biased for them cause we're an IB school and they give good-ish aid for IB students. :p</p>
<p>My one rejection so far is Wesleyan Freeman App. Since it's a scholarship program, I wasn't rejected due to lack of money, but rather for weakness of essays and personality and not being the type of personality they were looking for, I bet. <em>lol</em></p>
<p>I have been reading this thread with great sadness for all you (obviously) wonderful applicants. Some of your stats are extremely impressive.</p>
<p>I thought that, as a non-international, non-applicant (I'm the mother of an American senior), I would give you some insight as to why you were rejected.</p>
<p>First, the application process is a traumatic one for American students as well. The odds of getting accepted at any one college are much lower than they were ten years ago.</p>
<p>Next, for those of you who applied for financial aid, there may be an added difficulty.</p>
<p>Each college has money put aside for aid to foreign students. Some colleges may have a lot of money; some may not have much at all. However, regardless of the school, most have much more aid for American students than for internationals. If you think about it, this makes sense. American colleges have mostly American applicants. There's another factor: the federal government. The US government does not and cannot support non-American students, so any money that is matched or partially connected to the government cannot be used to give financial aid to international students. Some int. applicants will get aid while, by necessity, others will be denied aid because there simply isn't any more money.</p>
<p>So why the outright rejection?</p>
<p>If you cannot pay for college, then you cannot get a student visa. The colleges see absolutely no reason to admit you when there's not a chance of your attending. Sad for you, but true.</p>
<p>This is why international students should NOT say they need aid when they really have the means to go. For American students, it doesn't hurt to ask for aid since a student visa isn't on the balance. </p>
<p>I hope that you all get into at least one college and that you realize your dream of studying here. You would all make wonderful additions to a university community. Keep trying - and now that rejection probably has less to do with you than with the financial issues.</p>
<p>For a typical $40K school, what would be the minimum amount that they expect us to pay?</p>
<p>Thanks, Momwaitingfornew (new...?). </p>
<p>I remember reading the International page for College of William & Mary and being offended that they quite blatantly said if you don't have the money, you shouldn't apply. I was like "Well, gee, if you only foster to rich internationals, then you're probably a snobbish school!" but reading here made me realize that blatant, blunt notices made prior to the applications being sent is much better.</p>
<p>I'm still ambivalent of whether a school should tell their students of why they're rejected. Like telling them they have a really great app, but it was just financial issues that stood in the way. Would that not cause the student to be embittered, instead? Or do they think it would give the student confidence that their app would succeed at other same-tier/level schools who might have more aid for internationals?</p>
<p>Visitor1: I'd say that depends on the college itself. Some say they can only can offer a certain percentage of tuition/total fees to intels. Others don't tell at all. I'd say around 30K might be safe-ish? Then again, I really lack knowledge regarding financial issues in the academia world.</p>
<p>All of it? </p>
<p>Most Americans don't get much help, either. We go into debt big time to educate our children.</p>
<p>Sorry about the name, Izzy. I got frustrated when my first nickname picks were already in use. I madly typed in a name - and it was too long, so CC cut "news" to "new." </p>
<p>The admission officer from Johns Hopkins explained international/f.a. rejections on the JHU thread a week or so ago.</p>
<p>If you cannot afford to go to a US school, you should still apply. You might be one of the lucky internationals who get aid. You just can't allow yourself to get your hopes up. If you're at the bottom of the stats for a school, you have less of a chance than if you're above and beyond the average.</p>
<p>BTW, William and Mary is a public school - a state school - and therefore cannot by law offer aid to internationals.</p>
<p>Graduate school in the US is a different matter, particularly in the sciences where individual professors support promising students.</p>
<p>Two points:
First, this is not unique to American Universities (there are certainly some here in the UK which are as bad or worse). </p>
<p>Second:
The issue is always about allocating limited funds. Even in the (very few) schools which offer genuinely need-blind admissions and which commit to funding the full-need of all accepted students (including internationals), there are always arbitrary limits. For example, why does MIT put a firm cap on the number of international students? It is purely because is has far fewer sources of funds to meet the financial requirements of its international applicants. So it limits its exposure.</p>
<p>I know of no school that does not do this, in any jurisdiction.</p>
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800 Maths 730 Critical 720 Writing
770 Physics 780 Maths 2c 790 Chemistry</p>
<p>Waitlisted by WUSTL
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my scores are lower than yours risabh...all of them...how can WUSTL waitlist you??</p>
<p>i just had a bad dream..apparently i was waitlisted by all the ten unis.. as i am awake now, one uni at the last minute while i am about to go on a trip to salvage sth of this marred soul that i currently occupy tells me that "they have not recieved my entire finaid application"!!! when i sent it to them...it was apparently a hard task indeed to tell me a little bit earlier.....my duke decisions in 31st...hopefully the rejction will be polite....</p>