<p>Hi sorry if this is a stupid question. I got a C grade at a community college a couple of years ago and I repeated the class and got an A. On the transcript the C grade is not calculated in the gpa and the final cummulative gpa for that college is a 4.0. However, on the transcript it does show the C grade with the number of credits completed with a side note that the course was repeated. My question is will the LSAC include the C in the LSDAS gpa calculation for law school even though the original college itself didn't include it in its own gpa calculation? Or will the LSAC just ignore the C in its calculation just like the community college did? Thanks for your help in advance.</p>
<p>The C will be included.</p>
<p>LSDAS includes everything.</p>
<p>Calculation of GPA by LSDAS<br>
Written by Nasir N. Pasha<br>
Friday, 14 March 2008 06:55 </p>
<p>The Law School Data Assembly Service (LSDAS) is operated by the LSAC. The LSDAS collects application material (including test scores, undergraduate transcripts, essays, and letters of recommendation) from law school applicants. The LSAC then compiles this information into reports, which it sends directly to law schools on behalf of the applicant. Some law schools in the United States require that applicants use this paid service.</p>
<p>LSAC has released its transcript summarization procedures. The grade point average (GPA) which law schools view are all standardized to a uniform or UGPA. This scale is based on the common 4.0 scale. Some colleges and universities use alternative methods in GPA calculation. LSAC will not assess the value of grades between different calibur of schools but rather assign an objective value based on the school's scale as described in the chart below. In any case, a full transcript is sent with the transcript summary. </p>
<p>Grade Conversion Table </p>
<p>LSDAS Conversion Grades as Reported on Transcript<br>
4.0 Scale A to F 1 to 5 100-0 Four Passing Grades Three Passing Grades<br>
4.33 A+ 1+ 98-100 Highest Passing Grade (4.0) Highest Passing Grade (4.0)<br>
4.00 A 1 93-97
3.67 A- 1- 90-92
3.50 AB<br>
3.33 B+ 2+ 87-89 Second Highest Passing Grade (3.0)
Middle Passing Grade (3.0)<br>
3.00 B 2 83-86
2.67 B- 2- 80-82
2.50 BC<br>
2.33 C+ 3+ 77-79 Third Highest Passing Grade (2.0)
Lowest Passing Grade (2.0)<br>
2.00 C 3 73-76
1.67 C- 3- 70-72
1.50 CD<br>
1.33 D+ 4+ 67-69 Lowest Passing
Grade (1.0)
---<br>
1.00 D 4 63-66
0.67 D- 4- 60-62
0.50 DE or DF<br>
0.00 E and F 5 Below 60 Failure (0.0) Failure (0.0) </p>
<p>The above information is as described by LSDAS in 2007. Please do not rely on above information. Contact LSAC for accurate information.</p>
<p>Certain grades will not be included in your GPA such as:</p>
<p>Withdrawal, Withdrawal Pass
Incomplete
Remedial Indicated Courses
Grades awarded after the first undergraduate degree was awarded
No measure of credit assigned
Courses with two possible grades, e.g. Pass/Fail, Credit/No Credit Courses
Nonpunative Withdrawal grades that signify failure
Original Grade for repeated course
A no credit grade that does not signify failure
Other grades as specified by LSDAS</p>
<p>The source of the above information may be found here from 2007: <a href="http://www.lsac.org/pdfs/2007-2008/Infobooktext2007web.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.lsac.org/pdfs/2007-2008/Infobooktext2007web.pdf</a></p>
<p>Hey Slabcat -- or anyone else who can answer this question -- I was in the honors program at my college, in which grades are given a boost of .17 in terms of GPA (i.e. a B+ = 3.5, A- = 3.84...an A is still a 4.0). Will I lose this boost in my LSDAS GPA?</p>
<p>I think you will lose it. Some schools say a B+ is a 3.3, yours says 3.5, LSDAS says 3.33 for all of them. This might be a good place for an addendum, or if one of your recommenders is familiar with the situation s/he could mention it ("BB challenged himself with honors classes throughout college. Although this is not reflected in the LSDAS transcript, these classes are considered so difficult that they are graded on a different scale than other classes at XYZ University...")</p>
<p>Hey Amurr, I am in the same boat. According to slabcat's post, we should be in good shape. I don't believe the original grade will count towards our lsdas GPA.</p>
<p>"Certain grades will not be included in your GPA such as:</p>
<p>...
Original Grade for repeated course"
...</p>
<p>From the LSAC, page 29</p>
<p>
[quote]
Repeated Courses</p>
<p>All grades and credits earned for a repeated
course will be included in the GPA calculation
if the course units and grades appear
on the transcript. A line drawn through
course information or a grade does not
eliminate the course from GPA calculation if
the course units appear on the transcript.</p>
<p>
[/quote]
</p>
<p>if the grade is on your transcript, then it will be counted.</p>
<p>Unless the course units do not appear on your transcript... :)</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip, stacy! An addendum could certainly be worthwhile.</p>
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I got a C grade at a community college a couple of years ago and I repeated the class and got an A. On the transcript the C grade is not calculated in the gpa and the final cummulative gpa for that college is a 4.0.
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<p>to the OP,</p>
<p>You will need to send your transcripts from *all * schools you attended.</p>
<p>The "C" that you received in community college will be calculated in your LSDAS GPA, even though you repeated the course at another school. It is not unusual that when you transfer to another school, you just transfer the credit you successfully completed and not the grade in the course so you start the new school with a clean slate and the GPA you from the second school will only reflect the courses that you have taken at the second school (this is the reason that you must submit the CC transcript also).</p>
<p>If you repeated your course at the community college, while the CC only calculated the new grade of "A", the LSDAS will still calculate the original "C" grade into your LSDAS GPA.</p>