<p>Renaissance was started by folks from the Stony Brook math dept. I am sure they would hire anyone who could get the job done.</p>
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<p>This is humorous. The Stony Brook prospect doesn’t even get an interview at the investment bank because the bank won’t recruit at Stony Brook or any other SUNY.</p>
<p>If you want to put your bright-eyed Stony Brook son up against a top 15 school student with a 1:1 payout on who gets the job, I’ll take the bet as many times as you want to make it.</p>
<p>What is a top tier profession anyway??? </p>
<p>Investment banker – Teacher – social worker — engineer.</p>
<p>I guess that definition can vary from person to person unless you talk about raw dollars and money.</p>
<p>Or maybe they just have no interest in that kind of corrupt and soul-killing life.</p>
<p>[Why</a> life is still good for business school students ? in Wisconsin. - By Daniel Gross - Slate Magazine](<a href=“http://www.slate.com/id/2217350/]Why”>Why life is still good for business school students … in Wisconsin.)</p>
<p>I would love to see some sort of concentration breakdown of employment outcomes within Harvard and other schools. When I hear of a Harvard student who (gasp!) didn’t get a Wallstreet job but who majored in, say, social studies or classics then I’m not really sure what to think. If this is the case for an econ or applied math or stats or computer science concentrator - then I’d sit up and take notice.</p>
<p>I do think that it used to be that within the Harvard or elite school context, one could get away with majoring in fairly fluffy stuff and still be embraced by the business world upon graduation. That era may have drawn to a close.</p>
<p>^Not sure I would call social studies or classics fairly fluffy, if by fluffy you mean easy.</p>
<p>I don’t understand the tone of some of these posts. My son does not attend Stony Brook, he attends Williams, a school that I think does stack up against those on the list although not included.</p>
<p>And I know many of the folks at Renaissance and have socialized with the VP. </p>
<p>And they are not education snobs and do a lot of recruiting of international students and would definitely scope out an able Stony Brook person.</p>
<p>By the way, the folks at Renaissance (one family) funds the Democratic Committee in our township. </p>
<p>I am sure an elite education is an advantage in a field like I-Banking. I was not arguing against that.</p>
<p>My d’s ex - boyfriend only went to Holy Cross and got a job as an analyst with Morgan Stanley. Besides as has been already stated, its not just about making a zillion dollars.</p>
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<p>If you’ve never read The Bonfire of the Vanities, I bet you’d like it.</p>
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<p>Well, I guess that would depend on whether my child WANTED to work at Goldman, no? Or is being an i-banker at Goldman such a superior place to be that anyone should want to be it and it’s inherently better than any other job?</p>
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<p>I think someone who defines a “top tier profession” solely based on money is quite pathetic. And not in the least reflective of “prestigious.” Perhaps they haven’t gotten the memo that the REAL prestigious people in this country don’t have to work for others. LOL.</p>
<p>DocT I realize you are bitter about paying 200K for your D’s education and possibly paying more now for medical school. Hopefully you are getting it out of your system here on C.C and not relentlessly b**ing to her about how much her tuition is costing you. It would get really annoying.</p>
<p>Apologise for the “fluffy” adjective in last post. Out of line. I just meant more humanities, less directly business-related fields of study.</p>
<p>I’m interested in this because son is thinking of chucking the premed and quantitative econ to do social studies or history or lit or something he considers fun vs. work. He (and we) are questioning everything these days, it seems.</p>
<p>Barrons, thanks for the link to the piece on b-stuents at Wisconsin. Very interesting.</p>
<p>“only” went to Holy Cross? Doesn’t HC cost as much as any of the other excellent private colleges (and isn’t cost the basis of this discussion)? I remember reading that one of the chief speech writers for Obama is a 20 something year old graduate of HC. They must be providing some kind of education up there in Worcester.</p>
<p>“Not if it was the mailroom”.
Are you kidding me? How about an Exec Director (higher than a VP…one rung down from a MD).
Having worked in the industry, I don’t need schooling on who gets recruited to prof jobs in IB. Indeed, it is an elitist approach…most kids who graduate outside of the top 10 schools are facing serious obstacles if their dream is to work in such a place. But some DO make it…usually the very tippy top students at the non-target schools.
All that said, I’m not sure I understand the desire to work in this environment. Certainly, money and prestige have been a draw…but given the hours required, the actual rate of pay is not that great. The stress if off the charts. The people aren’t very nice. And the whole industry is unstable has been given a big black eye. So yeah, you want that kind of job…go for it.</p>
<p>Holy Cross is not viewed on CC as of the same stature as the Harvards or Whartons of the world. Even so this is an example of getting a high paying Wall St. job without attending an “elite college”</p>
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<p>I doubt that engineering is considered a prestigious profession especially since many Ivies (excluding Cornell and to a lesser extent Princeton) are not particularly good at engineering. Also engineering has a pretty low salary ceiling to the point where I think many intelligent people would eschew such opportunities, because usually people who are smart want to make money.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the top tier profession is teacher, but hey, what do I know?</p>
<p>I haven’t read through this whole thread but I will say that my husband went to public schools and the state university and is now incredibly successful by any standard (financially, philanthropically, personally, etc.). Friends often comment how they can’t believe he went to a state school, some just assume he graduated from an Ivy or comparable. He also makes sure to view applicants based on their ability not their college. </p>
<p>However, when my daughter got into Yale and turned it down for a school that fit her needs better his final thoughts were, “When did I become someone who cared about the prestige of a school?” Definitely a humbling and enlightening experience.</p>
<p>Brilliant people may go to non-name schools and still come out brilliant and walk through life accomplished. This is not what the original question is. It’s not about finding different people who may be exceptions to a broad but not homogenous rule. It’s about one person deciding whether for himself he comes out better at a name school or a non-name one. It does not matter if he finds a friend’s brother who went to Connecticut and started a successful business thereafter. </p>
<p>My answer continues to be that for many professions a name school does make a tremendous difference.</p>