<p>D had a 3.9uw in high school, is higher after two years of college. There's a difference between twenty hours of ballet a week and five hours of ballet a week. Duh. Double major, Math/Government.</p>
<p>Working much harder, though. Saw 3:15am frequently, 4:15am upon occasion.</p>
<p>I had somewhere around a 3.2 weighted GPA in high school and a 3.75 in college. Learning how to study is a marvelous thing.</p>
<p>My son's gpa after one year of college is exactly the same as his final high school gpa. (music student at Indiana U, so most of his classes are music, but has also taken English and Accelerated German. Was thrilled to get a B in ear training, his most challenging class so far.)</p>
<p>I had a 3.7 (UW) after my first year in HS and a 3.96 after my first year in college. Interestingly enough, I'm in a similar situation mentally - I hated my high school when I first got there, and I am unhappy with my college experience so far. This time, however, I know I shouldn't let that affect my academic performance. There's a chance I will grow to love my current school as I did my HS, and in any case, my grades are going to matter no matter what I decide to do in the future regarding my education. It also helps that I have more flexibility in choosing classes in college, so I wasn't forced into courses I have absolutely zero interest in.</p>
<p>In hs, i had about a 3.9 weighted, and in first year college, 3.75. However, when you consider my non-weighted hs average, i am doing a little bit better in college (i don't remember exactly, but it was probably about a 3.70). Day to day, I do less homework, but I spend much more time studying for exams and writing papers. Also, it probably helps that I am really only taking classes I want to be taking in college, whereas in hs, even though I didn't want to take science, i had to.</p>
<p>Dig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p><strong><em>17</em></strong> and counting! ;)</p>
<p>To answer your question, S had a VERY academically successful year at Duke. He received one B+ during the second semester (he was taking two different science lab classes, one bio, one chem, while living in the tent city in K-ville for several months!). The rest of his grades were A's (with one A+ the first semester). So, his grades were nearly identical to his h.s. grades, to our very pleasant surprise. He did, though, work much, MUCH harder for those grades!! He will be majoring in bio or chem with a likely minor in the other. </p>
<p>~berurah</p>
<p>D is now through sophomore year at UIUC, engineering, 3.51 GPA. Non-engineering friends study a lot less. Many who started with her in engineering freshman year are no longer in it. High school was 3.9 UW(top 5%). Interesting are others from her high school: (a) the brain who scored 36 on the ACT and 1600 on the SAT and went to UIUC: flunked out freshman year (apparently thought he did not need to attend class): (b) a high school friend of D's who is African American, had a 3.8 high school GPA but could not get better than a 21 on the ACT (after a retake), took the SAT in hope of doing better on that but scored 1020, but got accepted to UIUC, biology (wants to go to med school) -- through sophomore year in college GPA is 3.7.</p>
<p>S has finished sophomore year at Pitt with a 2.1 GPA. HS GPA was 3.8, 1430 SATs. Failed a sophomore statics course (IE major) that is not offered again until the spring. I am not sure what the issue is, but may be a complete lack of study skills (and a refusal to learn from his mistakes). Is looking (not very hard) for a co-op job for fall semester. The co-op advising office told him there were more jobs than students and that he should be able to get a job, even with his GPA (he asked the questions). He is in Pittsburgh for the summer in an off campus apt. Lost his summer job after two weeks and is finishing bartending school, which he paid for himself. We have told him that he has to find a co-op job for the fall and wait for spring to retake the course. If he doesn't find a job he needs to take the fall off and work doing something else. Not sure what else to do or how to help him. He is supporting himself this summer with savings from HS jobs. Eventually he will run out of money. Am afraid to pay for another semester of IE courses that can't be transfered to another major if he switches. Anybody have any input or advise. This is a bright kid who never had to work for grades in HS. Was hoping that one semester was all that he would need to realize how different college is. Thanks.</p>
<p>Son had 3.68 UWGPA for his hs college prep classes. As a dual compsci/cogsci major at RPI, he got a 3.5 gpa after frosh year and raised it to 3.75 cumulative gpa soph year. More importantly he had a 4.0 gpa in the 6 compsci courses taken thus far.</p>
<p>Likw Berurah, we are pleasantly surprised too. Perhaps a late bloomer??</p>
<p>I think that boys "bloom" later. (still waiting for the oldest). H did much better in college the second time around. Went back to school for an engineering degree when he was 27 or so. My younger S has showed a promising upward trend in grades, organizational skills, and maturity. Hope it follows him through college.</p>
<p>massmom,
I sent you a pm!</p>
<p>Massmom, you must be going through a lot of worry. Of course, I'm just responding to a paragraph on a message board, but what you describe doesn't sound like a "study skills" problem to me (or not just that). If you want something intended to be helpful on the study skills side, look for Schapiro & Marinelli, College Transition: A Critical Thinking Approach (Houghton Mifflin 2001) (written by people who ran a very successful "learning to learn" program in the SUNY system). But honestly I would be looking at drug & alcohol issues, too, and depression, and I bet you are. </p>
<p>My D: HS: 3.7 GPA unweighted, A+-As in English/History, A- - B+s in Math, Science, B+-Bs in Foreign Languages. Two different high schools, both very competitive, same grades. First year college, intends to major in English: 3.0 GPA, 3.7 (avg.) in English/Lit, 3.2 (avg.) in Social Sciences, 2.2 (avg.) in Math, French, Bio. Famously very demanding, anti-grade-inflation school. Worked much harder than in HS on courses she liked, and upset that she did not get higher marks there; worked about the same or less on stuff she disliked and suffered accordingly. But definitely some non-academic issues there.</p>
<p>D had a 4.0 unweighted in high school, i.e. in a school that doesn't give A+s the only grade she ever got below an A was an A- in PE the semester she refused to run in the gym due to a ballet injury.</p>
<p>Freshman year college first semester grades were way lower, a couple of Bs and a couple of A-s, don't remember exactly. Partying was way higher, which I actually encouraged to an extent, given her previous sole focus on studying and ballet. Newspaper commitment was very high.</p>
<p>Second semester, she of her own accord decided the B world didn't set well with her and she came back with 2 As and 3 A-s. </p>
<p>As her university has a well-known policy of grade deflation, i.e. only top 30% in any one class, and one of her As was in MolBio, a class full of pre-meds, we are really proud of her. Especially since as a legacy I think she had a nagging doubt around her acceptance, it's really good for her to find out that no matter why she was originally accepted she can hang with the rest of them no problem.</p>
<p>And, second semester, the partying continued, along with the newspaper writing. She just learned how to manage:). </p>
<p>Of course, me being me, now I just cross my fingers against sophomore slump....and hope that I do nothing in my pride to offend the gods with my hubris or attract the evil eye. Here is a heathen prayer to the continued health and well-being of all our beloved children, grades be they as they may.</p>
<p>dusba,
Know of 3 students who went to Chapel Hill #1- a Morehead Scholar-dropped out with failing grades, #2 another full ride academic scholarship-on academic probation, #3-top 10% HS student who is doing fabuously (3.7).
-Sometimes it's not the high school stars that shine in college.</p>
<p>Son did fine in the engineering major, (wheef!) with a C in the intro. cal. but he had a programming class he did not like at all.(And got a C in also.) In fact he said he dreaded it as it went on, and decided he did not want to do it for a living. So he changed majors to IT. I wish he had given it more consideration but so be it. Just thinking on my behalf maybe 10 years from now he will be tired of IT and not feel challenged enough . But whatever, his life.
So the grades were a little lower than high school.</p>
<p>alumother--how can you have a 4.0 with an A-? Kid 1 has the same and her GPA is 3.99</p>
<p>I think it has to do with whether the school gives >4.0 for an A+ grade. For example, Pitt does not :( so that while an A+ would logically balance out an A-, it doesn't always work that way. If the college gives those extra few tenths of a point for A+, a student could very easily still have a 4.0 with an A-.</p>
<p>Mombot they don't count PE:). She had to take gym because she didn't do a sport....</p>
<p>My S has the same gpa that he had in hs. 3.3, which he thinks is perfectly fine. He is one of those, "I'm so smart NMF, high standardized test people, who don't have to study, because homework is stupid." Kind of kids. He thought college would be a breeze after his ultra rigourous hs, but he has found out that slackers get B's in college just like they do in hs. My saving grace is that he has to maintain a gpa to keep his scholarship, so that keeps me from having to ride him all the time. </p>
<p>He did decide Med School is a no go and has changed his major to Econ. (Which when I was in school was the slacker major of choice when you decided you couldn't cut it in eng., business school, or pre-med) I can say that because I started out in accounting and ended up...you guessed it an econ major. I think he will be fine. He did learn what it takes to bring up a low grade before the final. I think he had a lot of practice this spring at that.</p>
<p>My son's gpa was lower at UChicago this year than it was in HS. However, I am not upset as he survived taking O-chem as a first year.</p>