Review of Rochester Admitted Student Day

<p>Never been to the campus before.</p>

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<li>Excellent facilities, compactly set up so you can traverse from dorms to science buildings in a few minutes. Many of the facilities are very high quality. Lots of libraries, lots of study spaces. One library - really a study center - is all flexible seating with team rooms and is open all the time. The main library is classically beautiful. There's a big science library, etc.</li>
<li>Went into a number of classrooms. They were mostly quite nice and some were very nice with lots of projection facilities, etc. </li>
<li>Dorms have good sized rooms, decently kept. Food was fine. Not as bad as people said it was in old UR comments. Decent variety, fairly well prepared, some healthy options. Lots of places to eat on campus and they're redoing the food court in the Commons this summer. There's a Starbucks in the Commons and a food / coffee stand in the biology building, etc.</li>
<li>Gym is nice. Good workout equipment and aerobics. Didn't see the dance facilities.</li>
<li>Much prettier than I expected. Lovely setting on the river. Nice, consistent Georgian architecture, much with old detail. Nice landscaping. Track and fields are right there. Lots of green space, much wireless coverage. A park runs along the river with a bike path. The gym rents bikes for free. </li>
<li>Kids seemed normal. Dressed normal. Not designer, not slob. Friendly. Heard lots of conversations about schoolwork.</li>
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<p>About the Rochester Curriculum. I didn't realize what it really is until today. You should know they have no requirements - just major in something and take a few clusters (3 related courses) or a major, a minor and 1 cluster or double major, etc. Lots of kids double major. The idea was, beginning back in 1994 review, to think about how a research university could teach undergrads better. They decided a major cost, meaning a frustrating inefficiency, was making kids take classes they don't want to take and thus having teachers teach classes they don't want to teach - or which are filled with kids who don't want to be there. They decided to eliminate that cost. Languages resisted but the number of kids taking languages grew immediately after the req. was dropped. I spoke to a professor who said his classes fill up with kids who want to take them and that makes teaching much more fun. He has a kid at another school and he is frustrated with their requirements. I had not realized the intent was to address how to teach undergrads in a university where faculty do research. This was a great approach because they impose structure without requirements: take what you want but find a major and find some things you can get into more deeply. So many schools have added requirements but this approach seems really smart.</p>

<p>Take 5 program. Talked to a review board member. No limit on how many can do this. Say a kid is in engineering. That makes little time to pursue an interest in poetry or something else. Develop that idea, work with an advisor to come up with a plan and get your argument together, have that reviewed by advisors and then submit - ideally in junior year because you get a 2nd shot if you're denied and because if you get in then you can allocate your major reqs over 5 years and mix in your Take 5 classes. You pay room and board. It's a great idea because it means the school is using slack - extra spaces in classes - and it doesn't cost them because you pay for upkeep. (You can also live off campus or be an RA and pay less or nothing, etc.)</p>

<p>85% live on campus all 4 years. The housing lottery is set up to encourage friends to bond, so a group of 6 goes in a 6 person suite, etc. They have mixers to help that group of 5 find a 6th, etc. I'd say the rooms are good sized for college dorms. Better than many I've seen. </p>

<p>Freshmen have not only an RA but 2 sophs who have found they love UR and who want to spread that and another kid who is there not to enforce rules but to advise and help. That's 4 for roughly every 26 freshmen - about 13 rooms.</p>

<p>Career services person was interesting. Says his constituency is all 4 years and that means 3 classes interested in internships and 1 interested in jobs, internships and grad school. They do a lot of internships, both during the year and in the summer. They suggest working with them right away to develop interests. This is an advantage of being UR in Rochester because the city is large enough and has big corporations but not a lot of schools competing for attention.</p>

<p>Wow thanks for that post it really makes me want to visit/attend now. Do you know if undergrads, more specifically but not limited to freshman, can be paid interns? I heard it pays more than jobs on campus but don’t know if it’s hard to find for a bio major.</p>

<p>Nice comments!</p>

<p>But one correction—</p>

<p>Fifth year Take 5 students were not allowed to live in the dorms this year, last year, and they will they be allowed to live in the dorms next year. There isn’t enough dorm space.</p>

<p>From this year’s housing lottery handbook:</p>

<p>Take-5 (in their 5th year) students, students requiring an additional semester to complete requirements for graduation and those taking additional time to complete a second degree are NOT eligible for housing this year. This is reviewed on a yearly basis and an eligibility decision is made based on availability of housing space. </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.rochester.edu/reslife/files/rd1011_booklet.pdf[/url]”>http://www.rochester.edu/reslife/files/rd1011_booklet.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>And I do not believe Take 5 students in their fifth year are allowed to be RAs. (One of D’s friends was disqualified from the RA program for being a 5th year.)</p>

<p>I think it’s more important to restate that Take 5 is something any kid can do, that it’s something you can prepare with input from the advisors in your major and in the area you want to add depth in, that while there’s no GPA requirement the program is for strong students who want to do more exploration of their interests not to finish requirements or make up for bad grades. There are a lot of misconceptions floating around.</p>

<p>This is a great thread! I became nostalgic over the thoughts of my first U of R visit.</p>

<p>I should just say that next year one of my best friends is going to be a CA (Community Assistant - basically an “RA” who oversees an entire building of upperclassmen) in Hill Court. So I don’t know if that statement on RA’s is exactly true for next year. </p>

<p>I was a part of Res Life during my sophomore, junior, and senior year. I’ve known PLENTY of Take 5’s who were RA’s.</p>

<p>Regardless if you become an RA or not, the Take 5 program is unique, and it is certainly another program that made Rochester stand out amongst other research universities.</p>

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They can be, but paid internships are few and far between. If they are paid, they’re usually some sort of work-study.</p>

<p>In this economy, even internships after college are often unpaid. That is the way of the world. So yes an intern can be paid but the odds are against it and that is true at all schools.</p>

<p>Lergnom, thanks for an excellent review. I concur with everything you have said about UR. DD and I visited 3 schools last weekend - Case (Fri), UR (Sat) and CMU (Mon). All were impressive, so it comes down to ‘the best fit’. CMU is not a good fit for her interests. Now the choice is between CWRU and UR. DD prefers UR (less structured curriculum, more musical opp’s), but CWRU has offered more merit money. We’ll see.</p>