<p>UW girl? 18?....</p>
<p>I feel very stupid and lazy now</p>
<p>link to fulbright winners, please.</p>
<p>It is in the Chronicles of Higher Ed., November 4th, but requires a subscription.</p>
<p>Happy Monday Mini.</p>
<p>This was a Rhodes Scholars thread that you hijacked. Come on, let the Rhodes Scholars have their own thread. :) </p>
<p>I think the Fulbright Scholars were actually announced in September. I know of at least one (Non-LAC) school that had 22 scholars announced in September. It is also one of the schools with 3 Rhodes scholars. :)</p>
<p>UPenn had a Rhodes Scholar as well that was not included on the list in the thread above</p>
<p>Mini's list was annotated to make a point (as they always are :)). That's why lots of schools were left off.</p>
<p>Some schools, including many smaller ones, are much more into the groom-kids-to-win-awards competititiveness than others. Because they are, if that's their aim, they're going to have a higher percentage of winners than a larger school. So if you're looking for that kind of mindset, than those schools would be worth looking at for you.</p>
<p>I know my D school has a relatively high percentage of scholarship winners- but I don't know how much they are "groomed", however at smaller schools- potential winners might be more easily identified- and encouraged to go that route.
A friend of Ds, did apply I beleive and although he didn't win a Rhodes, he did win a grant to study in Oxford, and he got a lot out of the process.</p>
<p>My D's school is on Mini's list, and I do know that they identify, seek out, and work with students to prepare them for the contests. That's what I meant by "groomed."</p>
<p>From articles that appeared last year, I gather that the "grooming" includes such issues as appearance, ability to converse informally (there are receptions), as well as how to deal with fatigue. Interviews seem to count for a lot, and some students do not fare well in them. In one article, a young woman recounted a morning interview that went flat (she is not a morning person).
Harvard supposedly had the largest number of finalists. None made it, the second time in the history of the Rhodes scholarship (the young man attending the Kennedy School graduated from a service academy).<br>
In the article I read last year, the head of scholarships appeared a bit nonchalant about the whole thing. Maybe this attitude had something to do with this year's lack of success.</p>
<p>Back in the Dark Ages, I had the equivalent of a Rhodes - a "Carroll Wilson" - awarded "after the manner of the Rhodes Scholarships" but particularly tied to one specific Oxford college. I knew many of the Rhodes Scholars (Bill Bradley was at my college), and all of them were extraordinarily capable, often very gifted individuals. Roughly half of them were competitive athletes - while I was there, many basketball players, and rowers; all were extremely polished. My college hadn't done anything to particularly "groom" me for the scholarship, and in the case of the Rhodes, it seemed to me that these extraordinary individuals would have done just fine in the competition wherever they had gone to school. I think that has changed a little, as colleges have all figured out how useful they are in marketing. The effort that goes into a Rhodes these days must be enormous.</p>
<p>While Fulbright scholars are very talented, it is a different animal. For one thing, with the exception of the teaching Fulbrights, winning is much more closely tied to one's specific research interests as developed at college (or in graduate school), and one has to match up those interests with a particular plan of study, which is not required in the case of the Rhodes. So they are much more dependent on the quality of the individual college's advising (as well as the talent of the student), both in providing the research opportunities prior to applying, and working with students to develop research plans. One other result of this is that many of the Rhodes scholars tend to be pre-professional - future doctors, lawyers, and business people (and politicians ;))- while many of the Fulbrights are pre-academics.</p>
<p>Anyhow, apologies to those who had seen the Fulbright list in September - while I knew some of the stats, I had not seen it (until Xiggi sent it to me.)</p>
<p>Oh OK
that I do agree with- but that makes sense-( to help students prepare- Reed even has a website-<a href="http://www.reed.edu/%7Ebrashiek/Rhodes-Marshall/">http://www.reed.edu/~brashiek/Rhodes-Marshall/</a>) I was thinking of grooming as selecting people that didn't necessarily have much of a chance- but was the schools best shot at a prize.
My niece was groomed for a prize( several actually)- and it was the topic of conversation at their house for months- but she didn't even make the 1st cut.
I feel that is cruel- I think that if a student really wants to participate thats fine- but to lead someone to beleive that they have a reasonable chance in winning- particulary when they have few skills outside the classroom- is pretty harsh way to wake up to reality.</p>
<p>However the process in retrospect at least I hope was valuable for her- but it was so sad because her family was acting like she had all but won.</p>
<p>There are about 6,000 Fulbright "awards" issued annually.</p>
<p>There are about 95 Rhodes Scholars announced worldwide each year.</p>
<p>Sokker, I am not sure why "awards" needed to be bracketed. Do you feel that the Fulbright are unworthy of the label? Also, I believe that in the context of College Confidential, the number of awards is about 1100 per annum. </p>
<p>Hijack or not, for people who inquired about a link to the Fulbright list of awardees, here's a link to the Fulbright online site</p>
<p>At the bottom of the page, there are links to the four classifications</p>
<p>Research Institutions
Master's Institutions
Bachelor's Institutions
Other Institutions</p>
<p>From the fulbright link:
"Awarded approximately six thousand grants in 2004, at a cost of more than $250 million, to U.S. students, teachers, professionals, and scholars to study, teach, lecture, and conduct research in more than 150 countries, and to their foreign counterparts to engage in similar activities in the United States." </p>
<p>"award" = grant money</p>
<p>a friend received a fulbright to do research abroad for a year a few years ago- ( also a Guggenheim- plus I have been told by his colleagues that he may be getting a Nobel one of these days)
There is really some great work going on- it is exciting to hear about.</p>
<p>There is really lots of money out there- one student who used to babysit for us for instance- received an open ended grant from UW- she used it to travel in Thailand for 3 months- no strings- ( very envious)</p>
<p>1sokkermom, thank you for providing the quotation from the GENERAL page. The Fulbright programs, however, offer different path, but not all of them fall under categories that might interest the members of College Confidential. From my vantage point, the program that matters in this context is </p>
<p>THE U.S. STUDENT PROGRAM:</p>
<p>Awards grants to U.S. citizens in all fields of study and operates in more than 140 countries worldwide. Awards more than 1,100 grants to U.S. students to study overseas. Offers one academic year of study, research, or teaching assistantship experience. Projects may include university course work, independent library or field research, or professional training in the arts.</p>
<p>Bro's daughter's hubby (my niece's ) is a current Fulbright winner. 6 years out of school. Doing study in building techniques. The are enjoying it. Apparently, the Fulbright people do not post the winners, at least I can't find it.</p>