Rich vs. poor, the importance of high school guidance counselors

@educateddarcy: I’m not assuming. I could name the actual schools I’m referring to. And it’s not just one high school. LAUSD, Newark, Camden, SDP, DSP… would all recognize a couple schools.

“Why are you assuming that their teachers and counselors are telling them a week before?”

Because they come here afterward in a PANIC- thats why!
If YOU had been on this website for over 10 years, reading what both parents and students come here to ask, your might not have such a high opinion of all teachers, or college counselors for that matter.

"At the school I tutor at, they take their standardized tests junior year, like everyone else! "

Like everyone else??? ALL HS juniors take standardized tests Jr year???REALLY??
That would be news to many student and parents.

"I’m also not trying to argue that the playing field is level, by any stretch, just trying to argue that there are resources available to these children. "

Wrong!
There are some resources available to SOME of them, not ALL!
Your sweeping assumptions regarding that what is available to the students you see or work with is , of course available to other students , is where you lose any credibility with posters who have been trying to help HS students and their parents , who DON’T have the information or resources they need in order to prepare for college.

Stick around, read, listen , learn, and you MAY be useful to more HS students in the future.

maybe…

A blanket statement was made, so I pointed out the inaccuracy of it. I do believe that there are special teachers out there that would take the time to do the research. I also think that the schools that you deem competitive and complicated may not be on their radar. I think you are being somewhat of a college snob here. They want to go to college, doesn’t have to be Yale. Reps from schools that I never heard of marched in and out of that classroom and the kids were beyond thrilled to have the opportunity to attend. The kids in the school district that really have a good shot at competitive schools have ample resources for success. Yes, I know this is one district. But it’s a pretty good example of an impoverished school district where there is hope.

" I think you are being somewhat of a college snob here. They want to go to college, doesn’t have to be Yale."

who said anything about Yale?? or ANY elite colleges for that matter??

“Yes, I know this is one district.”
good- thats a start…

You are saying exactly what old fashioned and I have been saying from the start, if you can google, you can access invaluable information. So even if you deem my personal experience to be worthless, and of course this district has many high schools that are given the same charitable resources, your wisdom should be easily accessed through the internet.

“if you can google, you can access invaluable information”

And just HOW is a POOR HS student , who lives in a poor area with little support from teachers or college counselors or anyone who has been through the college application process recently supposed to know what IS valid invaluable information and what is pure bunk when it comes to learning what they need to know ? How do they know what is pure speculation, often written by other HS students [ like we see all the time on the “what are my chances?” forum??
There is a saying- “you can find anything you want at Alices’s resturaunt”’ well, Google is Alices resturaunt. And IF you know what you need to find out it can be great. IF. BUT It has no filter for helping students, or parents for that matter, sift through the straw to find the the facts when it comes to College admissions.
Why do you think so many come here to the Parents forum CC in utter confusion?

who is being the snob here? Assuming that all students have to do is go to Google and they will magically know what to look for …