<p>Funny, but I think you are just deluded. I think UCLA has plenty of opportunities if you know where to look, but the fact remains that on AVERAGE (can you understand that with your seemingly AVERAGE brain) UCLA students will fare slightly worse than their Berkeley counterparts. </p>
<p>Seriously.</p>
<p>heh so why are you here? not above average enough to get into berkeley?</p>
<p>There are factors other than average salary that I considered in my college decision, but obviously that is something that the people in this thread struggle to understand.</p>
<p>ijreinsn,</p>
<p>Please don't insult my, or anyone else's, intelligence. If you aren't going to be polite, then I will respectfully excuse myself from this discussion. I also suggest that everyone else do the same if they cannot remain polite. This is not important enough to be rude over.</p>
<p>lol. deluded? </p>
<p>question- have you actually BEEN IN the workforce? at all? </p>
<p>because otherwise i don't think you can talk too much about my being deluded. talk to me in 2-5 years. </p>
<p>all this theory about ranking and prestige and recruitment makes for great internet drama fodder but it's all kind of pointless because it's not reality. do certain companies choose certain schools to recruit from? sure. but that doesn't preclude students from other schools from networking and nailing some interview to weasel their way into the company. </p>
<p>you just won't convince me that UCLA fails to afford it's graduates comparable opportunities. the real world isn't academia and the real world isn't CC. and in the real world you can get pretty much anywhere you want and any kind of salary you want if you make it happen. period. </p>
<p>ucla happens to be a pretty great jumping off point. but it's not meant to be the be all end all. no undergrad institution is. </p>
<p>stop whining and make it happen for yourself. seriously.</p>
<p>For the record, Google</a> and Yahoo do recruit at UCLA. And while it is true that McKinsey seems to have been absent the past few years, Booz Allen and other top 10 consulting firms are not.</p>
<p>This thread is precious...:D</p>
<p>Berkeley EECS Career Fair recruitment list:
Career</a> Center - Fair Directory</p>
<p>No comment on salary differences...;)</p>
<p>UCBChemEGrad,</p>
<p>UCLA has mostly same tier employers recruiting:</p>
<p>Booz Allen, Google, Big 4, Yahoo, Bain, Microsoft, Intel, etc.</p>
<p>Oh, I know...but Cal is blessed with the elusive Goldman Sachs...;)</p>
<p><em>And you know how important that is to impressionable CCers</em>...:D</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure I saw a "Bain & Company" sign on Bruin Walk this year. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I distinctly remember seeing Goldman, Sachs at UCLA when I was job hunting. Unless something's changed since then...</p>
<p>I mean, if not, I know at least a few UCLA people who were at Goldman until this year. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah, UCLA gets Goldman: UCLA</a> Career Center</p>
<p>^ Fleeting images of bulge bracket IB representation...are the Bruins delusional? ;)</p>
<p>I need to see documented proof.</p>
<p><em>I'm kidding, I'm not that gauche</em></p>
<p>"Abercrombie & Fitch" sounds like a fantastic employer to have at UCLA's "engineering and technical career fair"...:rolleyes:</p>
<p>Yeah, unfortunately the "engineering and technical" title is a bit too... off-target. The fair actually includes "technology, engineering, science, and business." So while I myself may not like A&F clothing, there's no doubting that they're a fairly successful firm.</p>
<p>But if you don't like A&F, there are always Accenture, Amgen, BAE, Goldman, HP, Intel, Lockheed, Northrop, Qualcomm (yay San Diego...), and TATA.</p>
<p>Yes, even TATA.</p>
<p>Because you should have an employer who makes everything. EVERYTHING.</p>
<p>^ Heh heh...they need Computer Science majors to keep track of the huge profit margins on imported Chinese clothing.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, teenager taste tends to be very fickle...it will be interesting to see how long A&F can keep the ride going in this environment...I'd probably short the stock if I were a betting man.</p>
<p>Yeah, well... I still don't think it's a "bad" thing per se to have them recruiting. No worse than most other employers in the US.</p>
<p>^ You're right, and I'm sure the employee discount is fantastic...;)</p>
<p>Oh, and regarding salary to get the thread back on topic, I think that for every UCLA grad, you can point to a Cal grad making less and vice versa.</p>
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<p>What a Pyrrhic victory...</p>
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<p>Indeed. In the long run, most studies find minimal difference between most BA salaries anyway.</p>
<p>Oh my G-d are you guys kidding? Grow up! Like, I know this is months late, but I know other people will try and look up UCLA salary info for graduates, just as I did.</p>
<p>Here are alumni surveys and their salary information for UCLA vs. UC Berkeley:</p>
<p>Berkeley
Starting Salary: $51,613
Current Salary: $106,429
10-year Salary: $98,464</p>
<p>UCLA
Starting Salary: $147,750
Current Salary: $180,909
10-year Salary: $179,634</p>
<p>Now obviously these numbers are not representative of ALL alums, and there are a ton of factors you have to take into consideration, but they're definitely nice to look at.</p>
<p>Speaking from a future UCLA undergrad/grad perspective: UCLA RULES!!!!</p>
<p>(The sources came from students review dot com /compare.php3?adduid=216&sel_state=CA - You can add or remove a University from that page as well)</p>